Lightforce battery packs

[Guest MOLLY]

Ive the type that goes around the waist with 2 batteries. The past 4 times out lamping one thing or another has gone wrong, wires burning out, disconnecting, tonight it was the red wire which leads into the plastic fuse case came out

A mixed night, bunnies out in groups near to the hedges, but hares absolutley all over the place

First field 3 rabbits out around a corner...i was too quick to release and lamped the 1st one making its way to the set instead of the last one...none caught.

I lamped one bunnie in a field and there had to be at least 12 hares in the same field (no exageration) The hares are not lamp shy either so get right in the way of a nights rabbit lamping....i lost the dog twice as he went after them, had to switch the lamp off and wait till he looses the scent, which can be quite a while when they pop up all over the place .... 3 yrs ago i would'nt believe we would be complaining about too many hares

Got into another field very quietly switched on the lamp...no power, i had to go back out the gate to the car to see what was what, opened the fuse case and it went back on when i closed it but by this time they had all heard me and disapeared...this happen again later. Then the tape holdong down the connectors onto the battery pack came away, and twice after climbing a fence the connectors had come undone

After the field with all the hares walking the road back to the car spotted 2 rabbits out in another field, the field is on a steep hill and i lost him out of the beam. Walked the road again and at the end of the same field tried another which went into a set (i know its called a warren but i always call it a set ) i was not aware of in a tree roots (ill have a look at that with the furts soon)

I just had quick looks in the next couple of fields, ive never seen any rabbit in before and the set is over the road. None in the 1st two then spotted one out alone, not even reacting to the lamp, got over the fence and you've guessed it the connectors came apart again :wacko: Pitch black dark, couldnt get them back together because the tape was getting in the way...Khan decided he didnt want to jump the fence cos he was still knackered after the hare escapade and i could hear him trotting down the road Next thing i know he is by my side sensible lad had gone to an easier place, and the lamp suddenly glowed into action....my first bit of luck all night the daft rabbit was still in the same place totally oblivious! Slipped by now a very tired Khan, a short run and he caught it as it tried to get through the hedge, then the lamp went off completely I had to use the flash from my camera to see the gate to get through and back to the car. So pleased it held out though till he made a catch, he deserved it after the marathons he ran tonight

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MOLL.

[beagles 0]

alot of people having problems with them its the fuss or the connections that are rubbish on them i think the people who make them need to sort it out !

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Moll; I know shit about Lamps. Last time I ran a Dog on one, it was a car headlamp. Nuff said!

 

However, I was actually with my mate, last weekend, when we went to the gun shop and Dean asked about a lamp for his rifle. (I know; Quite a differant thing, but ...) As it turns out, the guy swore by a head and shoulders pricey one - fits on the scope of the rifle and does all sorts - and Dean bought it on the spot. Night or two later, just as I was getting through the front door and facing the devestating havoc caused by Small Dog, my mobile rang. I was in no state to concentrate but the gist was that he was out there somewhere, on the bogs, and so knocked out with the performance of this Rifle Lamp that he just had to call me and babble about it. I forget the name, but I'll find out and mention it on the Firearms board.

 

Now to the point of all this; " Lightforce " Lamps: (Repeat) I Know they're a differant kind of Lamp altogether, But; In all the time I've read this forum, one thing has first struck, then gradually taken deep root in my conciousness. That is, simply, that people bitch, moan and rage about Lightforce lamps! And, yes, it's always seemed to centre around their connections!

 

Please don't ask me to cite the posts - I wouldn't have a clue, personally. But that's a Definate impression I've picked up here: I wouldn't Touch a " Lightforce "

[Guest Frank]

I belive these are better below Moll.

 

http://www.uradsecurepayment.co.uk/acatalo..._Lamp_Kits.html

 

 

 

Frank.

Edited January 19, 2007 by Frank

[Guest Nightwalker]

Moll; I know shit about Lamps. Last time I ran a Dog on one, it was a car headlamp. Nuff said!

 

However, I was actually with my mate, last weekend, when we went to the gun shop and Dean asked about a lamp for his rifle. (I know; Quite a differant thing, but ...) As it turns out, the guy swore by a head and shoulders pricey one - fits on the scope of the rifle and does all sorts - and Dean bought it on the spot. Night or two later, just as I was getting through the front door and facing the devestating havoc caused by Small Dog, my mobile rang. I was in no state to concentrate but the gist was that he was out there somewhere, on the bogs, and so knocked out with the performance of this Rifle Lamp that he just had to call me and babble about it. I forget the name, but I'll find out and mention it on the Firearms board.

 

Now to the point of all this; " Lightforce " Lamps: (Repeat) I Know they're a differant kind of Lamp altogether, But; In all the time I've read this forum, one thing has first struck, then gradually taken deep root in my conciousness. That is, simply, that people bitch, moan and rage about Lightforce lamps! And, yes, it's always seemed to centre around their connections!

 

Please don't ask me to cite the posts - I wouldn't have a clue, personally. But that's a Definate impression I've picked up here: I wouldn't Touch a " Lightforce "

 

 

The lamps themselves are very good, light, strong, excellent beam, its the wiring of the lamp that seems to cause trouble. I have two - a striker (used everyday) and a blitz - almost never used, too big and very little better than the striker. I have had no more trouble with Lightforce lamps than any other make I have had in the past or with the old spotlamps I used to wire up myself 30 years ago. If you go lamping the lamps will get some stick, wires will crack, connections will come apart, it's no good bitching about these things, learn to make a few minor repairs and its problem solved, except that by sod's law, wires, bulbs etc always seem to go on really good nights... answer, if you are going any way, keep a spare in the car.

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

I belive these are better below Moll.

 

http://www.uradsecurepayment.co.uk/acatalo..._Lamp_Kits.html

 

 

 

Frank.

 

I have been using Kit one for just over 2 years now and have never had a problem with it yet !

The only mainanace i have had to apply is a new bulb about a month ago.

 

This lamp can also be mounted on top of you're riffle scope secured by a mount wich costs £30 i think

and although its one larger battery it can be worn round you're waist on a belt, i find at the back is most compfy.

 

all the best

Ricky

[Guest oldskool]

me and my old bud from on here were out for a spell last night... his 170 has definately, by far, a better beam but hes had to fix the lamp a time or 2... and its always the connections!!! everyone seems to say the same with a very few exceptions!! at the end of the day, i think people will take the chance just for the quality of beam... i would have a lightforce just because when we are out his always out shines mine... in big fields mine just wont carry out to the range i need and its a blaser (100watt) not a laser (50watt)...

 

i emailed cluson and told them the only problem with the laser/blaser was the fact that you cant intensify the beam like the 170... i got an email back, but i dont think the woman knew much about what i was talking about (typical )

 

i've seen a few lads on here pull the cable out and replace it with a more heavy duty sort of line and wire straight to the battery... any problems they had before have ceased!!! :thumbs-up:

[Shamo 319]

I have always had trouble with Lamps, no matter how they are made. I have made my own before the commercially bought ones were popular and made for the job. The ones with about three miles of insulating Tape keeping it all together. These Lamps or more importantly the Ancillaries take some bashing and pulling about. In the back of the Land Rover under a Jacket, they get pulled out and strains the Wiring or Fuse connectors etc. I guess it is consumerism where if it goes it needs replacing so more money their way! What these guys don't realise is that it only takes a few bad nights out to chuck the Lamp or Battery Pack and try another.

I always try to strengthen the connections and switches with Araldite, this can affect the Warranties though, but I would rather have a Lamp you can turn on and it goes on and stays on when you want it to!! Always take spares out with you, ALWAYS, also take plenty of insulating Tape and a couple handy Tools. Over the Years it has become standard and necessary that we take a Lamp First Aid Kit.

[Guest MOLLY]

If you go lamping the lamps will get some stick, wires will crack, connections will come apart, it's no good bitching about these things, learn to make a few minor repairs and its problem solved, except that by sod's law, wires, bulbs etc always seem to go on really good nights... answer, if you are going any way, keep a spare in the car.

I do have a spare lamp a lightforce, but with the exception of the cigar holder burning out ive never had trouble with the lamp itself always the batteries. I think ive got every right to bitch especially when it happens 4 nights in a row with different things, none of which can be solved there and then, cos i dont carry a portable soldering iron The first 3 nights he only had one run, one rabbit, and since my shift determine the nights i can go out i was tearing my hair out You should'nt have to change the connectors, remove parts and rejoin wires etc etc for something to work properly.

It always seems to happen when you spot something you just know the dog will catch

Anyone have any ideas how to make a belt pack so i can rig up a 2nd set?

MOLL.

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

we used to use a motorcycle battery, might be worth trying one from a scrap yard ?

[Guest mush]

Never had any trouble with lightforce lamps, except the first one I had that had a glass front that was always breaking, but had a better beam than the modern ones.

Do lightforce do battery packs or are they put together by Deben, its cheaper to go to your local battery supplier than pay for one of their battery kits and the less connections the better less to go wrong. I hook my lamp up straight to the battery and have only had one bulb blow because of the lack off a fuse.

[Guest mush]

Anyone have any ideas how to make a belt pack so i can rig up a 2nd set?

MOLL.

If you want to have two batteries connected together as on a belt one, I think you connect + on one battery to the - on the other battery and the same with the other then connect the lamp to just one of the batteries. If you here a bang i was wrong

[johnny4 0]

me and a mate got 1 each thats a lightforce 170 lamp and a belt battery pack both wiring fell to bits in the first hour and my batterys where faulty after 1 month deben dident want to now( even that they said they where faulty) but glad i got them from auther carter who changed battery but the lamp they wouldent touch cause 3 miles from home id did aa diy job to get home and they said warranty was void due to messing about with it if the maid them better in the first place they not go wrong good lamp but next 1 want be a deben

Edited January 19, 2007 by johnny4

[BRY 79]

i got my lamps and battery packs fitted with these very good strong secure fittings i'll find the link as soon as i can and post it for you . They use them for pluging in speakers and guitars in the music industry very robust and easy just push in and turn then tight as can be. Found the link http://www.sabre-international.com/iqs/sfa...ces.htmlNeutrik Speakon 2 Pin Plug Cable 6-10mm and the female which it fits into Neutrik Speakon 2 Pin Plug Cable 6-10mm hope those links work lol look for the Neutrik Speakon 2 Pin Plug in connectors

 

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Bry

Edited January 19, 2007 by BRY

[Guest JOEB]

IMHO.........if people are going to make kit that gets used and abused the way that lamps do, they should give a products to field testers for a year.........bet they dont!

That way, you would not have to keep rewiring lamps (as I to have had to do) to get them up to standard.

J