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[Ray Mears 272]

done loads at 16 months? Personally in my opinion i would give a dog a good few seasons to prove itself as a worker before breeding ANY dog ..But thats just my opinion.

 

This is the reason too many dogs are culled/unwanted due to unproven backyard breeding

But if you think hes upto it - good luck.

that dog looks just like one i saw at york hunt on boxingday is it the same dog ??????and like people say mate he might be doing well .and i must admitt he looks well ..even better with a bit more work.... but hes hardly proven no matter how many hes had .....at least another couple of seaons before you get a provern dog ........and they will be better pups and stronger in another couple of seasons ......

im a bit confused !! why will the pups be better and stronger in a couple of seasons??whats time got to do with it if this dog turns out to be world class or not the pups will still be bred from the same lines. or am i missing something????

 

abit of common sense joke! the dog is still only a pup yet it has not proved it self and has not proformed to the best of its ability therefor if you breed this dog too soon your could end up with a shite litter. but if you wait until it has proven its self in the feild and you have found a dog as good as the one you have got you will end up with a decent litter

Edited January 1, 2007 by whippet boy

[zap 4]

Yeah that is true snoop, but if the dog turns out to be shit then the odds of the pups being decent dogs become even lower. There is enuff of a gamble when it comes to breeding working dogs with out making the gamble even bigger and breeding from unproven stuff.

David

if thats the case why do folk bother breeding first crosses ,i aint saying the lad is right or wrong to be breeding of his dog at the end of the day who ever buys the pups will no doubt be told about the dog and bitch and if then they still want to part with there money its up to them

[snoopdog 1,256]

done loads at 16 months? Personally in my opinion i would give a dog a good few seasons to prove itself as a worker before breeding ANY dog ..But thats just my opinion.

 

This is the reason too many dogs are culled/unwanted due to unproven backyard breeding

But if you think hes upto it - good luck.

that dog looks just like one i saw at york hunt on boxingday is it the same dog ??????and like people say mate he might be doing well .and i must admitt he looks well ..even better with a bit more work.... but hes hardly proven no matter how many hes had .....at least another couple of seaons before you get a provern dog ........and they will be better pups and stronger in another couple of seasons ......

im a bit confused !! why will the pups be better and stronger in a couple of seasons??whats time got to do with it if this dog turns out to be world class or not the pups will still be bred from the same lines. or am i missing something????

its passed down in the genes the more it does the more it learns the more it learns then more is passed down its like if you have to good working dogs and proven dogs then you are more likely to breed a good working dog ..if you bred the same dogs when they were young and not quite proven wether the sire and dam to these dogs were good or not you have less chance of it turning out to be a good worker mabye iam wrong but thats how i look at it jim its all in the genes jim ...

[bullsmilk 2]

done loads at 16 months? Personally in my opinion i would give a dog a good few seasons to prove itself as a worker before breeding ANY dog ..But thats just my opinion.

 

This is the reason too many dogs are culled/unwanted due to unproven backyard breeding

But if you think hes upto it - good luck.

that dog looks just like one i saw at york hunt on boxingday is it the same dog ??????and like people say mate he might be doing well .and i must admitt he looks well ..even better with a bit more work.... but hes hardly proven no matter how many hes had .....at least another couple of seaons before you get a provern dog ........and they will be better pups and stronger in another couple of seasons ......

im a bit confused !! why will the pups be better and stronger in a couple of seasons??whats time got to do with it if this dog turns out to be world class or not the pups will still be bred from the same lines. or am i missing something????

its passed down in the genes the more it does the more it learns the more it learns then more is passed down its like if you have to good working dogs and proven dogs then you are more likely to breed a good working dog ..if you bred the same dogs when they were young and not quite proven wether the sire and dam to these dogs were good or not you have less chance of it turning out to be a good worker mabye iam wrong but thats how i look at it jim its all in the genes jim ...

if its in the genes mate it dosent mater how long you wait the pups will be no stronger ...the doge genetics dont change as it gets older

[snoopdog 1,256]

done loads at 16 months? Personally in my opinion i would give a dog a good few seasons to prove itself as a worker before breeding ANY dog ..But thats just my opinion.

 

This is the reason too many dogs are culled/unwanted due to unproven backyard breeding

But if you think hes upto it - good luck.

that dog looks just like one i saw at york hunt on boxingday is it the same dog ??????and like people say mate he might be doing well .and i must admitt he looks well ..even better with a bit more work.... but hes hardly proven no matter how many hes had .....at least another couple of seaons before you get a provern dog ........and they will be better pups and stronger in another couple of seasons ......

im a bit confused !! why will the pups be better and stronger in a couple of seasons??whats time got to do with it if this dog turns out to be world class or not the pups will still be bred from the same lines. or am i missing something????

its passed down in the genes the more it does the more it learns the more it learns then more is passed down its like if you have to good working dogs and proven dogs then you are more likely to breed a good working dog ..if you bred the same dogs when they were young and not quite proven wether the sire and dam to these dogs were good or not you have less chance of it turning out to be a good worker mabye iam wrong but thats how i look at it jim its all in the genes jim ...

if its in the genes mate it dosent mater how long you wait the pups will be no stronger ...the doge genetics dont change as it gets older

no your right bulls milk maybe not stronger but more no how .....

[Ray Mears 272]

it has got to do something with the genes i.e if you had a mom and dad with ginger hair there is a good chance that you will end up with ginger hair(sorry for the example)this is passed though the genes. if you have 2 good dogs there is a chance that the pups will come out the same way

[snoopdog 1,256]

Yeah that is true snoop, but if the dog turns out to be shit then the odds of the pups being decent dogs become even lower. There is enuff of a gamble when it comes to breeding working dogs with out making the gamble even bigger and breeding from unproven stuff.

David

if thats the case why do folk bother breeding first crosses ,i aint saying the lad is right or wrong to be breeding of his dog at the end of the day who ever buys the pups will no doubt be told about the dog and bitch and if then they still want to part with there money its up to them

people who breed first crosses make sure that they are both good workers first ..even tho alot dont what would you prefer say for instance bull xgrey would you buy a pup of someone who had a nice looking bull sire what didnt work ...or of someone who had crossed one that did work and was proven ..i no which one i would buy ...all the best snoop..

[poacherjim 0]

done loads at 16 months? Personally in my opinion i would give a dog a good few seasons to prove itself as a worker before breeding ANY dog ..But thats just my opinion.

 

This is the reason too many dogs are culled/unwanted due to unproven backyard breeding

But if you think hes upto it - good luck.

that dog looks just like one i saw at york hunt on boxingday is it the same dog ??????and like people say mate he might be doing well .and i must admitt he looks well ..even better with a bit more work.... but hes hardly proven no matter how many hes had .....at least another couple of seaons before you get a provern dog ........and they will be better pups and stronger in another couple of seasons ......

im a bit confused !! why will the pups be better and stronger in a couple of seasons??whats time got to do with it if this dog turns out to be world class or not the pups will still be bred from the same lines. or am i missing something????

its passed down in the genes the more it does the more it learns the more it learns then more is passed down its like if you have to good working dogs and proven dogs then you are more likely to breed a good working dog ..if you bred the same dogs when they were young and not quite proven wether the sire and dam to these dogs were good or not you have less chance of it turning out to be a good worker mabye iam wrong but thats how i look at it jim its all in the genes jim ...

so your saying that its better to breed off an experienced dog than a novice as the experienced its learned is passed down ?? but all you can pass down is the ability to work and learn .if you get 2 of the best working dogs in the world and breed off them and then put the pups into a pet home they will never be workers but get some mongrel and put it into a working enviroment it will do the job.you cant pass down things that have been learnt because if that was the case there would be no need to teach children anything if their parents already know it

[Ray Mears 272]

your right but thay might follow in there parents foot steps

[bullsmilk 2]

nail,,,head.....on the

[snoopdog 1,256]

done loads at 16 months? Personally in my opinion i would give a dog a good few seasons to prove itself as a worker before breeding ANY dog ..But thats just my opinion.

 

This is the reason too many dogs are culled/unwanted due to unproven backyard breeding

But if you think hes upto it - good luck.

that dog looks just like one i saw at york hunt on boxingday is it the same dog ??????and like people say mate he might be doing well .and i must admitt he looks well ..even better with a bit more work.... but hes hardly proven no matter how many hes had .....at least another couple of seaons before you get a provern dog ........and they will be better pups and stronger in another couple of seasons ......

im a bit confused !! why will the pups be better and stronger in a couple of seasons??whats time got to do with it if this dog turns out to be world class or not the pups will still be bred from the same lines. or am i missing something????

its passed down in the genes the more it does the more it learns the more it learns then more is passed down its like if you have to good working dogs and proven dogs then you are more likely to breed a good working dog ..if you bred the same dogs when they were young and not quite proven wether the sire and dam to these dogs were good or not you have less chance of it turning out to be a good worker mabye iam wrong but thats how i look at it jim its all in the genes jim ...

so your saying that its better to breed off an experienced dog than a novice as the experienced its learned is passed down ?? but all you can pass down is the ability to work and learn .if you get 2 of the best working dogs in the world and breed off them and then put the pups into a pet home they will never be workers but get some mongrel and put it into a working enviroment it will do the job.you cant pass down things that have been learnt because if that was the case there would be no need to teach children anything if their parents already know it

i will put it this way jim if your parents are thick then theres a very good chance there kids will be ...if you put a mongrel in a field and put a working dog in a field which one is most likely to catch the rabbit ...???

[poacherjim 0]

the one thats been trained

[HBG 350]

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if you put a mongrel in a field and put a working dog in a field which one is most likely to catch the rabbit ...???

is every dog not a mongrel to you work it?

[snoopdog 1,256]

its got to be passed down no matter what anybody says ...its as simple as that .....and its passed down threw the breeding and the no how if sombodys parents are binmen ...then i dont think there kids are going to be proffesers do you ...??no offense to bin men..

[poacherjim 0]