Shaunm41 14 Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Without wishing to pry Shaun, were the caution and arrest due to alcohol related incidents? If so, you'd do well to prove to them that you've stopped drinking, as the three offences all being alcohol related would tend to point to you being unfit due to an inability to control your drinking. Please don't think I'm having a go, I'm not, just trying to point out how they might see it. If you have a history of alcohol related offending, especially involving violence then you can understand how they might see you having access to weapons as a big issue. Of course if they weren't alcohol related, then they might still see it as a problem. If you have proven in the past to be incapable of controlling your anger then they might still see you as a danger, even though it was a while ago. Again, in no way am I trying to be personal, or to have a go, or even suggest that you're a violent person or anything like that, but from your history the police might well decide that's the case (hence why you were declined for SGC previously.) Just trying to point out the viewpoint that they might take of you and your history. Good luck, hope you get it sorted. Thanks for your reply, All the offences were related to alcohol, the firearms inspector said that I appear have an underlying trend for excessive alcohol consumption and such people are not fit to be trusted with a firearm. It was all when I was young and stupid, apart from the caution 3 years ago, which was purely an accident anyway. (arguing with the ex's father, He was a right muppet, ended up in a scuffle, she got in the way and I somehow caught her while I was trying to push her father away, she had no marks or anything to prove it hence why no charges were brought). before that I had not had anything to do with the police for 4 years and not had anything since. Since then I have gone and done all my HGV licenses at a cost of around £2000 which I would never risk loosing cos after another DD i would be lucky to get them back, I have been given my personal license to sell alcohol around 4 years ago as I ran a pub for around a year with no problems, I worked as a licensed doorman aswell for around 3 years without problems. I have now started up a waste management business which I am the director of. I hardly ever drink now and if I do I rearly go over 1-2 pints. Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 http://www.acclesandshelvoke.co.uk/ Just for reference. Quote Link to post
Shaunm41 14 Posted October 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 http://www.acclesandshelvoke.co.uk/ Just for reference. Cheers for that.. Im liking the look of the cash special captive so think I may go with that.. Now how do I get the slaughtermans license so I can use it? Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 The only problem with captive bolt guns is that the end of the gun has to be near on point blank to the animals head. When used on fallen livestock they are usually on the 'fallen' animal is normally on the floor or in a cattle crush. I wouldn't fancy holding a crazy fox and putting one of thoughs to its head. Best get on that Slaughterman's course !!!! Quote Link to post
hiho 5 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 http://www.sect5.co.uk/stock.php?calibre=9mm get a glock and be gangsta ayye Quote Link to post
fmwtc 12 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I would say You will need to already in the industry to get the ticket mate I'll check this weekend for you and drop you a pm best of luck bare innmind you will need to fit a separate drainage system to your yard to catch all rain and liquids from your yard ad have it disposed of by a licenced contractor and your vehicles musthave blood tanks fitted to collect all fluids leaked from all fallen stock these days all fallen stock collection yards are equipped to carry out brain sampling for bse more expense the best earner would be to collect horses plenty of money there and find your self a rendering plant to take them direct but most places have the job stitched up and will close the door on anyone else trying to get in to it Quote Link to post
Shaunm41 14 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I would say You will need to already in the industry to get the ticket mate I'll check this weekend for you and drop you a pm best of luck bare innmind you will need to fit a separate drainage system to your yard to catch all rain and liquids from your yard ad have it disposed of by a licenced contractor and your vehicles musthave blood tanks fitted to collect all fluids leaked from all fallen stock these days all fallen stock collection yards are equipped to carry out brain sampling for bse more expense the best earner would be to collect horses plenty of money there and find your self a rendering plant to take them direct but most places have the job stitched up and will close the door on anyone else trying to get in to it Cheers for that mate. I have a vehicle that has been used for collection of hazardous clinical waste, its leakproof apart from 2 drainage pipes at the front which can be adapted into a catch tank so thats no problem. I have already found a rendering plant that will take the stuff off me at around £50 - 55 per tonne but not sure if thats reasonable or not as its the first time ive lookied into this. We are a waste management company removing all types of animal and human healthcare waste, Dont currently have a yard so everything goes direct to disposal at the moment. Quote Link to post
Shaunm41 14 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 http://www.sect5.co.uk/stock.php?calibre=9mm get a glock and be gangsta ayye Cheers for the link mate, Notice some of them say "restricted as per conditions on an FAC for Humane dispatch" What restrictions is that? Thanks Quote Link to post
fmwtc 12 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 For your job a cash special is perfect will do from lambs to bulls an horses Quote Link to post
fmwtc 12 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Without a ticket needed the section five is more hassle than it's worth plus why pay out money when the cash will do the job for all the free bullet is only good for bigger stuff you wouldn't waste money on a 38 bullet on a lamb when a ten p cap would do the same cap would also do a bull or a horse so why waste tome and money we have twenty six trucks all carting six days a week and all of us had nothing but a cash in the truck the same type of gun was used in the slaughter house Quote Link to post
Shaunm41 14 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Without a ticket needed the section five is more hassle than it's worth plus why pay out money when the cash will do the job for all the free bullet is only good for bigger stuff you wouldn't waste money on a 38 bullet on a lamb when a ten p cap would do the same cap would also do a bull or a horse so why waste tome and money we have twenty six trucks all carting six days a week and all of us had nothing but a cash in the truck the same type of gun was used in the slaughter house I think that will be the best option then, but need to findb out how to get the slaughtermans license now so I can use it. Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/farmanimal/welfare/slaughter/guidance.htm Link explains how to apply I have a .22 and a 357 mag but most times I use the captive bolt cause it is easier as regards safety cause of position of animal and as is said above its cheaper to use. Quote Link to post
CUPCAKE118 0 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) I might add we did have occasion to use the shotgun and rifle at times when bulls went mad lol Shit the bed i think you would need a 4 man mortar team! Edited October 18, 2010 by CUPCAKE118 Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) http://www.sect5.co.uk/stock.php?calibre=9mm get a glock and be gangsta ayye Cheers for the link mate, Notice some of them say "restricted as per conditions on an FAC for Humane dispatch" What restrictions is that? Thanks that'll be restricted to the number of rounds that can be held in the magazine, for evolvers, they just hammer in a steel plug in all but two of the cylinders just with an interference fit, there was a thread a while ago that said that they just restrict the magazine capacity of the auto handguns similarly, but seeing as they're built to strip down to clean and replace magazine springs, not to mention that you can just swap it for an un modified magazine, I find it hard to believe that many if any force would grant a semi auto, sometines the plod will restrict you on calibre, as a friend has a .32S&W where a .38spl would have been prefered for dispatch of deer.... Edited October 18, 2010 by danebrewer10 Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 http://www.sect5.co.uk/stock.php?calibre=9mm get a glock and be gangsta ayye Cheers for the link mate, Notice some of them say "restricted as per conditions on an FAC for Humane dispatch" What restrictions is that? Thanks that'll be restricted to the number of rounds that can be held in the magazine, for evolvers, they just hammer in a steel plug in all but two of the cylinders just with an interference fit, there was a thread a while ago that said that they just restrict the magazine capacity of the auto handguns similarly, but seeing as they're built to strip down to clean and replace magazine springs, not to mention that you can just swap it for an un modified magazine, I find it hard to believe that many if any force would grant a semi auto, sometines the plod will restrict you on calibre, as a friend has a .32S&W where a .38spl would have been prefered for dispatch of deer.... I know of at least 4 other keepers in other force areas to me that have semi auto pistols my .22 is a walther p22 and is unrestricted so 10 shot and my 357mag revolver is a 6 shot and again is unrestricted Quote Link to post
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