i think i killed my air arms.?

[gazzer 1]

hi folks...i was recently given an old air arms side lever air rifle (22)...its very tatty,was sprayed with grey/silver paint and has quite a bit of surface rust (all fixable)....now one morning i woke blurry eyed and thought id have a look at this thing and see if it does still work...i cocked the lever and dry fired it..sounded absolutely fine to me.....what i didnt realise was that the lever arm had come out of the slot/housing....the ram/piston is now wedged too far into the gun..(hope that makes sense)the ram/piston (presuming thats what its called) has now obviously obstructed the part where the cocking lever slots in before you draw it back..........i have managed to remove the barrel and took the gun out of the stock..i thought id try and fix this myself.....i fashioned a pin that would fit down the barrel (or the main part of the gun that the barrel goes into),and tried to push the piston/ram back along the chamber so i could get the lever bit back in the slot...i practically had all my body weight on this and it moved the ram but not far enough....now i know most of you will say im an idiot for doing thing but that bloody spring is just too strong for me to force back in this fashion......i guess what im asking for is any tips...ideas....and do you think i may have ruined the gun?...i dont unfortunately have the cash to send the money off for repair..and im not even sure its worth it....sorry to be so vague with details and i dont know the exact model no of this gun..cant find it anywhere due to scabby finishing of the gun...any hlp would be appreciated guys n gals.

Edited October 2, 2010 by gazzer

[spike25blue 55]

Send us a picture buddy so can see what gun it is

 

Send to spike25blue@hotmail.com

 

Atb rob

[parrots2 54]

Send us a picture buddy so can see what gun it is

 

Send to spike25blue@hotmail.com

 

Atb rob

you will need to remove the main spring first before piston will come back .without the leveridge of the cocking arm in place you want push it back

[Phantom 631]

Air Arms Side Lever?

 

Anything like these

 

I won't say you've killed the gun, just maybe put it on sick for a while

For future referance; Its never a good idea to dry fire any spring powered gun but now you know, you won't do it again will you?

 

As was said earlier, you will have to remove the spring before you can pull the piston back out.

This involves removing the rear end of the action, preferably with a spring compressor as even when fully extended (like yours is now) the spring will still be under enough tension to cause you quite a serious injury if it releases and hits you

 

Where in the country are you, there may be someone local to you that may be able to help

 

Phantom

[gazzer 1]

wow...thanks for the help guys.....ill try get some pics done, the gun is in bits at the mo...the only writing or marking on the gun is on the top where the scope sit,and it just says air arms...looking at it breifly i didnt realise the rear of the gun could be broken down,ill look a little closer,i am in the bath area in the south west...i know if i take it to a local gun shop they will have to send it off for repair which as i said dont really have the money to throw at it...ill get some pics together and maybe that will help matters..thanks again guys.

[gazzer 1]

ps..Phanton...it looks nothing like the ones in your pic..more like a traditional rifle,at a guess id say its from around the 's....it does have quite a short barrel,maybe 6-8 inch from end of the stock/wood and has some kind of groove/slot which would take the silencer.

[Phantom 631]

Hey Gazza,

 

Is it deffinately a "Side" Lever or an "Under Lever" ?

 

I can only think of the Jackal by AA that is a Side lever; but there are things such as the TX and the Pro-Sport that are Under Levers?

 

We will all (well most of us will) do our very best to help another shooter out

 

Phantom

Edited October 2, 2010 by Phantom

[andyfr1968 772]

Sounds like a Camargue to me.

 

If you can stand postage to Leeds and you pay for the parts, I'll fix it FOC for you. That's if it can be fixed!!

 

Cheers.

[gazzer 1]

wow you guys are so helpfull..i really appreciate....Phantom...its definately a side lever..i think maybe an ambidextrous stock too.

[gazzer 1]

Sounds like a Camargue to me.

 

If you can stand postage to Leeds and you pay for the parts, I'll fix it FOC for you. That's if it can be fixed!!

 

Cheers.

Andy..thats such a generous offer,im sure i could cough up for postage and parts,are parts generally expensive??,,i guess thats a daft question really as you wont know til you see the gun,hahah.

[Phantom 631]

Sounds like a Camargue to me.

 

If you can stand postage to Leeds and you pay for the parts, I'll fix it FOC for you. That's if it can be fixed!!

 

Cheers.

 

Nice one Andy

 

I'd forgotten about those I only ever saw one and didn't know it was an AA model.

Thats my thing learned for today then

 

You can get a rough idea of parts from http://www.gunspares.co.uk/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=24240&cat=Sidelever%2FKhamsin There not bad prices and I can't see too much damage being done maybe something as simple as the piston washer has disintergrated after being dry fired and not been used for so long allowing the piston to move further foward and jam.

 

Phantom

[gazzer 1]

thanks again guys..i cant get the pics onto my netbook at the mo..does anyone know where there are some images of old air arms side levers..i cant find any...i can then tell u exactly what model it is from the images....i think it maybe a sports carbine barrel (shorter?))..

[matt_hooks 188]

Like this but with a short barrel?

 

[gazzer 1]

yes mate very much like that one with slightly shorter barrel,and there is no knurling or carving up the wood except where you grip with the trigger hand.and it even has the same leather strap with lanyards.

Edited October 3, 2010 by gazzer

[Phantom 631]

Thats the one,

 

Slightly different stock to Gazza's but I'm just looking at the images he sent me, deffo the Camargue

 

Phantom