deer

[whin 463]

before guns etc deerhounds were used for coursing by scottish lairds and near aviemore there still guys who catch them with big deerhoundy types ,ive yet to see a pure deerhound that i wanted to own , but saw plenty crossed alas most have been over the pond , thye were and are capalbe of pulling things up to white tail deer singly . the dogs ive saw in this country apart from crosses were not capable of catching the cold most deerhounds that ive saw localy were show dogs , localy there been 12 falllow let go by one of the big stalking syndacites so it maybe intresting in afew years as they roam , personaly when you breed size yu lose to much hunting running qaulities . too big to hit a deer running in awood or not enough stamina to work one out of a wood then catch him out in the open ,thats real hunting no beaters lamps etc ,any way who has the time to watch a dog struggle with a deer to the death i would not call these guys hunters etc ,fair enough a young dog on a roe so he learns the kneck is were he grabs ,but who in there right mind would sit and watch a dog struggle with asika fallow buck or red plus if its a hard chase or one of many why waste the dogs energy hunting with dogs is ateam sport you help your jukel out if your not brave enough to jump on and pull the beast down dont do it, ive heard enough from some of the dreamers etc

[Guest Jane Russell]

My mother has a deerhound. I was asking her last night how big she is and she's going to measure her but there are a lot that are over the standard by the seem of it. That dog couldn't catch a cold either!

 

Jane

[whin 463]

My mother has a deerhound. I was asking her last night how big she is and she's going to measure her but there are a lot that are over the standard by the seem of it. That dog couldn't catch a cold either!

 

Jane

its apity most pure deehounds are fecked jane, i had afew deerhound type in the eighties nice dogs but you needed space to run them etc , but more to the piont before the ban catching big deer is alright but its lugging the things carried a few ten stone sika fallow useing a pole two of us hard going ,another thing if deerhounds and there crosses were so good why are they not so popular as if they were good i would have one tommorow as the saluk crosses are not the anser for me either all the best

[Guest baldie]

Deerhounds, are called deerhounds for a reason.I,ve never taken a deer with a dog, but it stands to reason that a pipsqueak isnt going to knock over a large deer, as the old saying goes..."use enough gun". also, this is a very interesting chat, please, lets keep it civil, and accord some respect to the gents with great experience please.

 

 

deerhounds are called deerhounds for a reason, :11: well thats it then,there the best at that then,what about wolfhounds,are they the best at wolfs,is the fox terrier the best at fox,leave it out baldie,i have heard some shit before,but ffs,have a day of will you, :11: :11: :11: how can we keep it civil if you come out with shit like that,imho,the deerhound is an over rated deer dog,

 

You, for some reason bobby, have a problem with me, i dont know why, to the best of my knowledge we,ve never argued , or i,ve had to moderate your posts?I put the request in for a bit of civility,without mentioning anyones name, but it was aimed at you pal, you are rude and ignorant , and its people like you who are killing these boards, this was a nice pleasant discussion before you stuck your oar in, why dont you do us all a favour , and keep your comments to yourself, unless you,ve something constructive to say, or can back up your arguments with some facts.

[Guest Jane Russell]

My mother has a deerhound. I was asking her last night how big she is and she's going to measure her but there are a lot that are over the standard by the seem of it. That dog couldn't catch a cold either!

 

Jane

its apity most pure deehounds are fecked jane, i had afew deerhound type in the eighties nice dogs but you needed space to run them etc , but more to the piont before the ban catching big deer is alright but its lugging the things carried a few ten stone sika fallow useing a pole two of us hard going ,another thing if deerhounds and there crosses were so good why are they not so popular as if they were good i would have one tommorow as the saluk crosses are not the anser for me either all the best

 

I'll try to dig out the pictures of the bitches my mother had in the nineties. The bigger of the two (70lbs) would bring down deer, the smaller one (50lbs) would try to help cut off the deer's escape! They came from rescue and I expect the RSPCA would be horrified to hear how much they killed They worked well together but we never knew their breeding

 

Jane

[Guest smoothrun]

What you guys seem to forget the deerhound or a good deerhound cross is a big f*****g dog with powerfull jaws and intelligence to spare. No dog comes near to them when it comes to deer FACT

[Guest Jane Russell]

I think the crosses are better but a good dog is a good dog regardless of the make and model.

 

Jane

[lucky 578]

What you guys seem to forget the deerhound or a good deerhound cross is a big f*****g dog with powerfull jaws and intelligence to spare. No dog comes near to them when it comes to deer FACT

 

i think everyone knows what a deerhound is but do you honestly think they can kill mature stags in a matter of seconds, and if it was a matter of jaw power, then pound for pound the bull cross would probably have more power in the jaw.

[juckler123 707]

Thought id add my pennysthworth ive seen dogs tackle fallow hinds and young bucks and kill em instantly in the fall or into trees one particular bitch was mustard at this and we missed a load of her kills as she would do this out of sight on many occasions and wouldnt back track to the kill you had to check her carefully for any deer fur on her then start looking for the carcass needless to say we would often find em days after ragged by foxes what a waste but more often than not wed track to the kill ourselves and there would be no marks on em apart from her clawmarks as shed tackled em i saw this bich tackle out many times and exactly how nightwalker describes as for reds and fallow stags she never stood a chance they were just to powerfull ive seen a fallow stag snap three stands of barbed wire running through a fence and it snapped it like cotton ive also seen a red stag with three capable deer dogs on it still walking and it had to be grabbed by the handlebars and brought down it would have to be some big alount type of hound to cope with big annimals like fully grown stags ive seen plenty of deer dogs in and around the midlands but none that would stand a chance on a red stag fully matured in the rut or not having said that my experiences are mainly with wild herds things are different in a paddock where the deer have nowhere to go all the best juckler

[Guest smoothrun]

What you guys seem to forget the deerhound or a good deerhound cross is a big f*****g dog with powerfull jaws and intelligence to spare. No dog comes near to them when it comes to deer FACT

 

i think everyone knows what a deerhound is but do you honestly think they can kill mature stags in a matter of seconds, and if it was a matter of jaw power, then pound for pound the bull cross would probably have more power in the jaw.

 

Its not just a matter of jaw power its skill, intelligence and meny moons of that breed of dog doing what it is born to do and that is hunt deer.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,756]

In my short time in the lurcher world 10 years or so i have seen hundreds of roe pulled over day and night by dozens of differet dogs. The best i ever seen was a dog called Kane, a huge bull headed adonis of a dog who was a bull grey x sal whip grey. He f*****g destroyed them single handed and was like a heat seeker on them...Why was he the best..because he did it easily , quickly and a minimum of fuss...Ont the flip side I know a lad who had 2 1st cross deerhounds that caught the square root of f**k all cervids in their career sportingly as they were Slow Clumbersome and inert, Only good for mugging dodos on the lamp at 10 yds ....Ive yet to be convince that by a deerhound cross alone althhough Id imagine blended with something to perk them up they re a useful animal...I have seen some nice looking specimens on the sites over the years owned by genuine lads ....Perhaps they can say something?

[lucky 578]

What you guys seem to forget the deerhound or a good deerhound cross is a big f*****g dog with powerfull jaws and intelligence to spare. No dog comes near to them when it comes to deer FACT

 

i think everyone knows what a deerhound is but do you honestly think they can kill mature stags in a matter of seconds, and if it was a matter of jaw power, then pound for pound the bull cross would probably have more power in the jaw.

 

Its not just a matter of jaw power its skill, intelligence and meny moons of that breed of dog doing what it is born to do and that is hunt deer.

 

so would you say they are capable of killing mature stags in a matter of seconds ? imo i dont think any dog is capable of killing large stags quickly, and definately not regular what ever the breed, thats are job

[Simoman 110]

Great thread fellas, really enjoying it Just a question from somebody whos only seen deer taken on dvd Will some dogs take the smaller CWD, munties and roe and pull up when taking fallow, sika or red? Historically speaking?

[lucky 578]

Great thread fellas, really enjoying it Just a question from somebody whos only seen deer taken on dvd Will some dogs take the smaller CWD, munties and roe and pull up when taking fallow, sika or red? Historically speaking?

 

i have'nt seen any pull up but i've seen a few good "roe" dogs really struggle to get a good hold on a fallow, let alone stop it, or bring it down even

[Simoman 110]

Great thread fellas, really enjoying it Just a question from somebody whos only seen deer taken on dvd Will some dogs take the smaller CWD, munties and roe and pull up when taking fallow, sika or red? Historically speaking?

 

i have'nt seen any pull up but i've seen a few good "roe" dogs really struggle to get a good hold on a fallow, let alone stop it, or bring it down even

 

Thanks Lucky,

 

I've just read Jackie Drakefords new book and she describes fallow as "not particually fast" and roe "not particually fast in the open" and a story about a pair of border terriers that "wrought havooc on ther local roe population". Who needs lurchers :whistle: :11: