day dog lamp dog

[Mick C. 229]

ive always started my lurchers off on the lamp first because ive seen a couple of pups thats bin out in the day time hunting but when they tried it on lamping and when the dogs missed the rabbits lamping they used to f**k off useing its nose which you dont want coz there maybe other rabbits about

 

Thats the problem i am concerned about.

 

Also the dog that i refer to as a day dog would not have had the necessay speed and agility for lamping due to her build ,never the less shes still a cracking pot filler.

[T78 4]

my dog is allowed to hunt up and use his nose by day but when lamping he just seems to know the difference and returns to my side after a slip(with no hunting up),most of the time without a word from me.with experience they soon learn the crack.i wouldn't have a dog now that won't/can't do both day and night.

[Hannah4181 260]

I think if you put the time and effort in training a dog properly then there is no reason why they can not do both. My lurcher will hunt on his own or with the terrier in the day but he returns instantly on the lamp.

[Mick C. 229]

Thanks for the replys.Very helpful.

[trisha 1]

i got a suluki type bitch here,had her out since a pup every were i go,ferreting shes exceld at this sitting quiet while the ferrets are in not grabbing the rabbits in the nets[i hate that]shes there on it if i say she will pin it if need be.great with a terrier up an hedge catching bolters,marking holes,hedges etc will hunt up in day find on her own aswell,good bitch on feather to catching them in mid air and rush in on them in cover.On the lamp shes coming on great straight back when lights out [no hunting up like she does in the day]just started catching squaters,can slip her very far on quary sometimes whole feilds and she catches and brings it back.good day time bitch, fen and field not a world beater, catching 17 of her first 19 runs at 13 months old havent done much since then in the way of that on the grounds that its not worth the shit that comes with it.Its not about what you start them on pal imo its how you do it keeping a strict routine whilest out not back tracking on what you have done,you got to have that bond[get them on the same wave level as you]if you no what i mean enouther thing to bair in mind is you got to give them plenty of work as pups[not just take them out for an hour here and there just dont work.you put it in front of them theyl soon start to please atb ps get out there give her all you can not pick and choose its worked for me

[Mick C. 229]

i got a suluki type bitch here,had her out since a pup every were i go,ferreting shes exceld at this sitting quiet while the ferrets are in not grabbing the rabbits in the nets[i hate that]shes there on it if i say she will pin it if need be.great with a terrier up an hedge catching bolters,marking holes,hedges etc will hunt up in day find on her own aswell,good bitch on feather to catching them in mid air and rush in on them in cover.On the lamp shes coming on great straight back when lights out [no hunting up like she does in the day]just started catching squaters,can slip her very far on quary sometimes whole feilds and she catches and brings it back.good day time bitch, fen and field not a world beater, catching 17 of her first 19 runs at 13 months old havent done much since then in the way of that on the grounds that its not worth the shit that comes with it.Its not about what you start them on pal imo its how you do it keeping a strict routine whilest out not back tracking on what you have done,you got to have that bond[get them on the same wave level as you]if you no what i mean enouther thing to bair in mind is you got to give them plenty of work as pups[not just take them out for an hour here and there just dont work.you put it in front of them theyl soon start to please atb ps get out there give her all you can not pick and choose its worked for me

I called on an old mate last night and he said exactley the same.I am probebly thinking to much into it because iwant everything to go right-thats not usually my way -must be getting soft in my middle age.

 

I was out with the pup last night and again early this morning.

 

He is very good on the lead already thanks to the old bitch.She is a very steady dog and i think it will rub off on the pup.

 

I have decided to carry on letting him follow the bitch in daytime when shes mooching about.I will introduce him to the lamp when he is mature enough to give a good account of himself.

 

Your right bondings the key word at the moment.

[scotty2306 37]

i was told if you want a good lamp dog just take it lamping if you want a good daytime dog just do daytime.but if your wantin g it to do both i would put a full season of lamping under it belt before you show it daytime.my dogs will do both but i find the more daytimew i do the more they f**k about at night just my oppinion

[Mick C. 229]

i was told if you want a good lamp dog just take it lamping if you want a good daytime dog just do daytime.but if your wantin g it to do both i would put a full season of lamping under it belt before you show it daytime.my dogs will do both but i find the more daytimew i do the more they f**k about at night just my oppinion

Thats what i also believed, jack of all trades master of none.

 

I need the dog to be the real deal when lamping i dont want to jepordise his chances of acheving his full potential by doing the wrong thing.

 

Theres so many different veiws on this post.I think each and every dog must vary through breeding and personality.

 

In addition the knowledge and experience of the owner must play a big part

[Penda 3,355]

I used to believe in starting lurchers on the lamp 1st but as time has gone i have relised that you should get them more aquainted with day time work as long as all the basic training has been put into place working the dog on the lamp usaually aint a problem and they should pick it up quite fast

[Mick C. 229]

The recall has got to be instant.

 

Hunting up just isnt on.

 

Maybe working on a strong recall in daytime should suffice for night work.