andyz 30 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Bloody hell these stories certainly open your eyes to what does happen out there!!! Be safe everyone!!! ATB, Andy Quote Link to post
Sweeney-Todd 208 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 As promissed, here's the pix First is the Pellet entry hole in my forarm that was at an angle and not straight on. The pellet came to a stop just under the scarr tissue that you see The second one is my 1st attempt at suturing a wound. Trying to do it one handed was a bit awkward to say the least I cant find the head on pic of the Geco with the skirt sticking out of my forearm but I'll keep looking. Phantom Fancy using blue cotton!!... :nea: Quote Link to post
pigeon640 0 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) with all due respect guns violence & or depression don't mix its just not right as people with these type of problems could do themselves harm never mind others not saying people cant be treated and recover but you can see why authorities are very carefull colin Edited February 21, 2010 by pigeon640 Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Fancy using blue cotton!!... :nea: Thats what they use these days, remember where I worked? I often picked up or had various items given to me. They lable things like food, with the European 'use by' crap. It was attached to the needle in the suture kit. Sterile until opened Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 with all due respect guns violence & or depression don't mix its just not right as people with these type of problems could do themselves harm never mind others not saying people cant be treated and recover but you can see why authorities are very carefull colin I whole heartedly agree with part of that Colin Violence & Depression don't mix well. But luckily that mixture is very, very rare. A depressed person is more likely to kill or harm themselves before harming others. I speak from experiance, not only personal, but I oftem met people who suffered serious depression where I last worked. A large percentage of them wound up dead by either suicide, drug overdose or by completely stopping alcohol ingestion, not realising that after drinking very heavily for years and years, abrupt ceasation would kill them. Phantom Quote Link to post
farmboy99 1 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 my brother shot himself in the hand with his webley nemesis pstol about ten years ago, jesus times going fast. cant remember damage but wasnt too bad. this is the same boy that picked a banger up that didnt go off only for it to explode in his hand nitemere he was Quote Link to post
farmboy99 1 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 hang on phantoms photo normal clothes and a nice house,nick's camo in the living room ...guess we are ok phantom crease up Quote Link to post
pigeon640 0 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) with all due respect guns violence & or depression don't mix its just not right as people with these type of problems could do themselves harm never mind others not saying people cant be treated and recover but you can see why authorities are very carefull colin I whole heartedly agree with part of that Colin Violence & Depression don't mix well ok But luckily that mixture is very, very rare. A depressed person is more likely to kill or harm themselves before harming others. I speak from experiance, not only personal, but I oftem met people who suffered serious depression where I last worked. A large percentage of them wound up dead by either suicide, drug overdose or by completely stopping alcohol ingestion, not realising that after drinking very heavily for years and years, abrupt ceasation would kill them. Phantom OK phantom i take your point and good to see you can stand your ground without turning it into a slagging match with a torrent of bad language, you seem very on the case good luck and all the best for the future Colin Edited February 21, 2010 by pigeon640 Quote Link to post
farmboy99 1 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 having read that all id like to say to phantom im on your side too mate ive got depression running in both sides of my family both my parents are depressive and alcoholics on top its not easy and i know what its like. to top it off my girlfriend has developed servere bipolar since last year. she had a few minor episodes at younger age but it came out fully just before christmas '08 it's extremely hard to live with and is like a battle at times i hope she will get better soon. i sort of feel i shouldnt say about it on here but noone knows her so i think its ok to demonstrate my point. the meds shes on are seriously debilitating its really painful as theres nothing that anyone can really do to help her. it has caused a lot of problems at home for both of us and i am probably depressed myself from it i know i was drinking about a bottle of vodka a day at one point which is never good. i dont drink now apart from a few at weekend as i am coming to terms with it more. mental health issues effect a lot of people in different ways. someone who is depressed in my eyes should not be deemed unfit to handle an airgun. if that were true im sure a large amount of people from this site alone would be banned from using them. a schizophrenic on the other hand would be a different matter. you get what im saying anyway. i hope you dont have a relapse phantom all the best tom Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,842 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 having read that all id like to say to phantom im on your side too mate ive got depression running in both sides of my family both my parents are depressive and alcoholics on top its not easy and i know what its like. to top it off my girlfriend has developed servere bipolar since last year. she had a few minor episodes at younger age but it came out fully just before christmas '08 it's extremely hard to live with and is like a battle at times i hope she will get better soon. i sort of feel i shouldnt say about it on here but noone knows her so i think its ok to demonstrate my point. the meds shes on are seriously debilitating its really painful as theres nothing that anyone can really do to help her. it has caused a lot of problems at home for both of us and i am probably depressed myself from it i know i was drinking about a bottle of vodka a day at one point which is never good. i dont drink now apart from a few at weekend as i am coming to terms with it more. mental health issues effect a lot of people in different ways. someone who is depressed in my eyes should not be deemed unfit to handle an airgun. if that were true im sure a large amount of people from this site alone would be banned from using them. a schizophrenic on the other hand would be a different matter. you get what im saying anyway. i hope you dont have a relapse phantom all the best tom very nicely put tom regards davy Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Very nicely put indeed Tom I have had to deal with a few people suffering BiPolar disorder; most were actually quite easy to handle with calming words (I always used to use my tone of voice and sympathetic words before I ever had to get physical) I only had to restrain one and that was so a collegue could administer an emergancy sedative so we cold get her to hospital. Sometimes it is very distressing indeed trying to handle that. I know that if I had not taken up airgunning again after my breakdown, I would probably be in a completely different and most probably worse state indeed shooting got me out of the house, it got me into the fields and among other like minded individuals. Its helped my recovery greatly Thanks for your comments and sharing your experiances. Phantom aka Tony. Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) Thank you Colin Appreciate that Phantom Edited February 21, 2010 by Phantom Quote Link to post
farmboy99 1 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 cheers davy mate. It sounds like airgunning has been the best thing in the world for you tony mate that's a great result. i know what you mean by getting out makes a difference. if you get in the rut of sitting at home stewing in your juices it just manifests into something dangerous. i'm really glad you're on the right side of it all now i too have always been very calm when she's panicing or doing stuff she really shouldnt. her brother is a real problem though he calls her all sorts and says he ashamed to have her as a sister etc it's very difficult for her to deal with that, you can imagene how that hurts. hes only 19 and obviously has the mentality of a toddler. shes phoned me in tears quite a few times after being shouted at and insulted by him. its exactly what she doesnt need nor anyone with her condition. Bi-polar is quite a broad term from what i gather and it can range in serverity. i think she is quite bad, she has all the symtoms that are entailed with the condition although shes never got violent. she just breaks down before anything like that happens. do you work with the mentally ill then tony? all the best tom Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hi Tom, I worked at a specialist Med Centre in Hull. I was the Security & Close Protection Officer for the staff. Our 'Clients' were varied, Drug & Alcohol Addiction, Mental Health problems, People living on the streets, Sex industry workers, people who were too violent to be seen by a 'normal' GP. If we made it for 30 minutes without an incident we were having a good day I loved it there and I miss the place greatly. The only good thing about me leaving is that I no longer have to wear the hot and heavy body armour anymore Phantom Quote Link to post
bedrock 16 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I count my self very lucky because I have never been shot but I have seen first hand what damage a gun can do . I’ve seen someone shot in the nose with an air rifle and someone shot in the calf with a .410. Both incidents were avoidable and shouldn’t of happened. Be safe lads. Quote Link to post
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