Casso 1,261 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 There was a thread on here recently about what qualititys people value in a lurcher,Alot of different virtues were put forward,speed,stamina,coat and even the look of the dog,but Brains cropped up a lot too,.My question is "How much brains does a dog need",a saluki is a perfect example of an animal bred for generations ,just to catch its quarry nothing else, and "catch "being the proper term,not race another dog which is exactly what a greyhound does, But, is a saluki not thought of as lacking a little grey matter,but is perfectly designed for what is does, It's my belief that any lurcher given enough experience over many seasons can figure out its game,without some of the querks that come from the well known brainy breeds of lurcher,Plenty of experience for me is the key and looking at the amount of dogs that get sold between 8 months to 15 months shows that some lads dont have the patience, So what do you think lads ,Where has brains come out on top over grit in your experiences,?? Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 There was a thread on here recently about what qualititys people value in a lurcher,Alot of different virtues were put forward,speed,stamina,coat and even the look of the dog,but Brains cropped up a lot too,.My question is "How much brains does a dog need",a saluki is a perfect example of an animal bred for generations ,just to catch its quarry nothing else, and "catch "being the proper term,not race another dog which is exactly what a greyhound does, But, is a saluki not thought of as lacking a little grey matter,but is perfectly designed for what is does, It's my belief that any lurcher given enough experience over many seasons can figure out its game,without some of the querks that come from the well known brainy breeds of lurcher,Plenty of experience for me is the key and looking at the amount of dogs that get sold between 8 months to 15 months shows that some lads dont have the patience, So what do you think lads ,Where has brains come out on top over grit in your experiences,?? Good post mate.Easy if you need brain,s Only one dog collie x Quote Link to post
sambam 8 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 good post casso, i think brains make a dog easier to train, the dog picks things up quicker and you can teach it a few thing that will come in usefull in the fild but do brains fill the freezer??????or does experience Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 good post casso, i think brains make a dog easier to train, the dog picks things up quicker and you can teach it a few thing that will come in usefull in the fild but do brains fill the freezer??????or does experience Hi mate Yes brains do fill the freezer and when it comes down to it.The collie is by far the better brain dog.Bar none Quote Link to post
riohog 5,904 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 if a dog dosent have the abbility to learn ...its no good to anyone but you have to spend alot of time and effort with them Quote Link to post
SMART DOG 340 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 i really think a bit of brain in a dog is key especially for ground i work on a regular basis.... Regards Micky Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 if a dog dosent have the abbility to learn ...its no good to anyone but you have to spend alot of time and effort with them No effort.Can get most dogs doing basics at six month Catcher just under five month.Will be good to go this year Quote Link to post
sambam 8 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 i agree with what your saying that a dog needs to be able to learn and that colliex are smart as feck. you can give a dog all the expireance in the world but if its not able to learn from the expireances then it will never get any better Quote Link to post
beefcurry 0 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 brains are defo overated cassio give me a dull dog every time i aint got time for an intelligent dog :clapper: Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 i agree with what your saying that a dog needs to be able to learn and that colliex are smart as feck. you can give a dog all the expireance in the world but if its not able to learn from the expireances then it will never get any better The dog did learn.Fist time out Bushing Sunday took its first rabbit. So maybe all the work did make it better or is it the collie plus work ? Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I THINK ITS MORE OF EXPERINCE, THAN BRAINS. Most lurchers take them out enough [day+night] soon pick it up. You need a bit of brain, a 1/4 from collie's, or other breeds is plenty enough.?? The sences = from most lurchers [nose,sight,chase,kill,] is [instinct], just that bit of brain helps thats all, maybe to retrieve and a bit eaiser to train.?? Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I THINK ITS MORE OF EXPERINCE, THAN BRAINS. Most lurchers take them out enough [day+night] soon pick it up. You need a bit of brain, a 1/4 from collie's, or other breeds is plenty enough.?? The sences = from most lurchers [nose,sight,chase,kill,] is [instinct], just that bit of brain helps thats all, maybe to retrieve and a bit eaiser to train.?? Come on bird.Brains arent just about retrieves.A dog with brains will learn quicker and do better all round.Back to the ? Can you name a dog with more brains than the collie Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 theres brains and to much of it, you dont need a clever dog in the field, i've seen brainy dogs slipped on rabbits close to hedges and not even give it a try. my whippet bitch is the thickest dog i have seen and gives 110% at a 100 miles an hour all the time harder work than a collie x but more rewarding, knowing that she can do everything you would need a lurcher to be able to do, but with more guts. she tears up cover, marks holes, jumps anything etc you dont need a clever dog imo. Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 why are the bull s's so popular they aint the cleverest of dogs but there highly rated in the field Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 theres brains and to much of it, you dont need a clever dog in the field, i've seen brainy dogs slipped on rabbits close to hedges and not even give it a try. my whippet bitch is the thickest dog i have seen and gives 110% at a 100 miles an hour all the time harder work than a collie x but more rewarding, knowing that she can do everything you would need a lurcher to be able to do, but with more guts. she tears up cover, marks holes, jumps anything etc you dont need a clever dog imo. Agree with you on most things.But why not have a clever dog also Quote Link to post
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