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hello all,

 

just done my work experince with the ranger from the forrestry commision, i only had 2 days with him but thourthly enjoyed it and learnt a lot, we got 2 knobbers yesterday and today we got one poorish condition 6/7 pointer,

 

anyway im going to do some stalking with him through the commision (paying for it) but he said that i might need to get my FAC and a premit of sorts to "borrow" his rifle for the days stalking - but he wasnt 100% sure,

 

so could some one please tell me the laws and regulations regarding this matter, bearing in mind that im 16, and im in scotland if that helps,

 

thanks all,

 

all the best

 

edited to say: mods feel free to move if in wrong section

Edited by cunninghamb
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He's possibly right...only the owner or his appointed agent can lend you his gun to use in his presence in England...it's a Little more complicated than that, but I'm not sure about Scotland!

 

Talk to your FEO, I'm sure he will advise you! :thumbs:

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The FC will not allow you to shoot on their land its your age thats the problem not the lack of FAC problem.

 

Estates allow anyone to shoot their rifles but this is not strictly legal mainely due to age issues.

 

so whats my situation then?

 

little confused now :blink:

 

:laugh:

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Here is the relevant passage regarding estate rifles. However you must be 17 or over.

This is taken from ACPO guidelines and is pretty simple to understand:

 

Borrowed rifles on private premises

 

6.16 Section 16(1) of the 1988 Act enables a

person to borrow a rifle from the occupier

of private premises and to use it on those

premises in the presence of either the

occupier or their servant without holding a

firearm certificate in respect of that rifle. It

should be noted that this gives slightly more

flexibility in the use of a borrowed rifle than

is permissible with the use of a shot gun

as described in paragraph 6.14, in that the

borrowed rifle can also be used in the

presence of the servant of the occupier.

However, the occupier and/or their servant

must hold a firearm certificate in respect of

the firearm being used, and the borrower,

who must be accompanied by the certificate

holder (whether it is the occupier or their

servant), must comply with the conditions

of the certificate. These may include a

safekeeping requirement and, in some cases,

territorial restrictions. Section 57(4) of the

1968 Act defines “premises†as including any

land. The effect of the provision is to allow

a person visiting a private estate to borrow

and use a rifle without a certificate. The

exemption does not extend to persons under

the age of 17 or to other types of firearm.

There is no notification required on the

loan of a firearm under these circumstances.

A borrowed rifle should not be specifically

identified as such on a “keeper’s†or

“landowner’s†firearm certificate. The term

“in the presence of†is not defined in law

but is generally interpreted as being within

sight and earshot.

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