Trapper 0 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Well! went out this afternoon and it was bloody embarrasing! those pellets were all over the place,the other day i went out and only fired 5 and hit and killed some doves really cleanly. My first shot this after noon was on a dove and it dropped it like a stone ,and i thought these pellets are going to be wicked,but after i got to shoot a large amount of them i dont think i dropped any of the quarry i shot at and neither did my mate,i could see the pellets flying off too the side etc. So i decided to swap back to the accupells to see if it was the wind or if my gun had been knocked, my mate went back to his fx and i shot the accupells and we were back on track so the Dynamic hollowpoints unless very close ,get a big fat NO. plus they go through my gun about as smoothly as sandpaper so i guess its back to the verminpells. Dissapointing stuff! Trapper Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) Lets face it, at sub 12 ft/lbs shot placement is a lot more important then the illusive ghost that they call over penetration. Because at the end of the day a rat, pigeon, squirrel or what ever other small game we want to bag is going to have a shit day with a hole in the brain. If that pellet stays there or goes through the noggin does not really matter that much, because they can't think or live with either, hole or pellet in that spot. I for one will go with whatever my gun is most accurate with so that I know that the pellet ends up in the right spot. If it doesn't, I want to be the one to blame and not because my gun does what it want's to. Another thing is: You sit there popping pigeons out of a close tree and you spot a bunny 30 odd yards down the field. Must be a crap moment not being able to take that shot, because you have the wrong pellet in the spout to do the job, because you don't know where that thing is going to end up. ATB Michael Edited July 26, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post
Trapper 0 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Lets face it, at sub 12 ft/lbs shot placement is a lot more important then the illusive ghost that they call over penetration. Because at the end of the day a rat, pigeon, squirrel or what ever other small game we want to bag is going to have a shit day with a hole in the brain. If that pellet stays there or goes through the noggin does not really matter that much, because they can't think or live with either, hole or pellet in that spot. I for one will go with whatever my gun is most accurate with so that I know that the pellet ends up in the right spot. If it doesn't, I want to be the one to blame and not because my gun does what it want's to.Another thing is: You sit there popping pigeons out of a close tree and you spot a bunny 30 odd yards down the field. Must be a crap moment not being able to take that shot, because you have the wrong pellet in the spout to do the job, because you don't know where that thing is going to end up. ATB Michael Exactly my thinking Trapper Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 thank you very much for your generosity, i will see how they fire through the hw90 and then get some depending, i think i have about accupells left so i should be ok for a week then it off to the shop post haste before insanity sets in. if i pm you my address will that be ok, thanks again, and i have to say despite the sometimes childish spattles the generosity on this section is admirable to say the least. cheers davy atb rob i sent them 1st class today,so you should have them soon.ok buddy regards davy Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 how soft are those verminpells? Quote Link to post
hughes_jh 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 knocking off doves and rats and ferals at the moment i am getting through my tin of accupells at a rate of knots. but i want to try out some of these vermin pells . does anyone know of the cheapest place to get a couple of tins ie one of each accupell and vermin pell becuase i dont have any guns shops close to me (within about 15 miles)?? or is it a case of waiting for the weather to break and whipping off to the shops? i dont want to be out of pellets because not shooting can drive you to polling or so ive heard cheers guys atb rob Thats quite funny! :clapper: Quote Link to post
bedrock 16 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I’ve never had a gun that could get on with bisley pest control! I’m currently using H&N hollow point and they seem to be ok. I’ve also used RWS super hollow points in the past and they were good atb bedrock Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 hey all I've got some shooting that is pretty close ranges and the trusty accupells are over penetrating,I have brought a pack of the dymanic hollow points and they are a big pellet length ways ,but also they feel a bit rough through my gun when pushing them in with the bolt,they dont fit as easy as the accupells. I took a magazines worth out of the dynamics yesterday and shot 5 doves one after the other at about 10 - 20 yards and killed them all with no sign of over penetration,these pellets hit hard which is what i'm looking for ,but i have heard that rws super hollow point are pretty good? never used them so i'm only going by what someone else says.some of the pellets look an interesting shape but you look at them and they are only in .177 which is annoying! so whats your best hollow point? And i'm shooting an AAs410 so want a half decent pellet to put through it. Trapper Sounds like you was using Dynamic Triple P's Made for CO2 Competition Shooting There is a .22 Version Called XP2's @ 14.50 Grains It's a Rifle Version of the TAC 2 Used by many Shooters around Water for Rat's Both made of Tin - Do not flatten on Water - Was made for Good Target Marking www.airgunpllets.com BOB/R Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) HP's are crap unless you're shooting at point blank range. The expantioin's not an issue with a sub FAC airgun, so forget it. Not enough power to make it happen. If you're only shooting at very close range, stick to a good flat-head, otherwise use whatever dome head shoots best out of your gun.. Cheers. Edit to say... Wish I could spell expan.. expanti... expash. F**k it, you know what I'm saying..................... Bloody Pubs!! Edited July 28, 2009 by andyfr1968 Quote Link to post
RaiderBoy 19 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 HP's are crap unless you're shooting at point blank range. The expantioin's not an issue with a sub FAC airgun, so forget it. Not enough power to make it happen. If you're only shooting at very close range, stick to a good flat-head, otherwise use whatever dome head shoots best out of your gun.. Cheers. Edit to say... Wish I could spell expan.. expanti... expash. F**k it, you know what I'm saying..................... Bloody Pubs!! here you go Andy "expansion" Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) deformation is the word you are looking fore. Just chisel and stick. I did some testing some time back and I'll stick my findings on this subject into a separate post to bury this thing once and for all. I am going to buy a video camera shortly and then I'll put some moving picture up with that post at a later date to show you what my ramblings are on about. Give me half an hour or so and I'll have that thing up here. ATB Michael Edited July 28, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post
foxon 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Here is a test card I done this morning useing my trusty Daystate LR90 with H&Ns HP @ 40 yards 5 shots placed moderate wind in open level farm land, shooting point of aim to centre of target, drop is due to set for 35 yards, all 5 shots placed within thumb nail, please note I did wait for gaps in wind that was in front of my target to drop. foxon. Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 HP's are crap unless you're shooting at point blank range. The expantioin's not an issue with a sub FAC airgun, so forget it. Not enough power to make it happen. If you're only shooting at very close range, stick to a good flat-head, otherwise use whatever dome head shoots best out of your gun.. Cheers. Edit to say... Wish I could spell expan.. expanti... expash. F**k it, you know what I'm saying..................... Bloody Pubs!! here you go Andy "expansion" Thanks! I still blame the bloody pub!! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 AA410 using AA Fields in 5.52 at 38 yards 10 shot group of a table in my old garden. 170 bar starting pressure. I went out a bought a bipod the next day ATB Michael Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 bisley long range golds will suprise you on pigion and rats.... Quote Link to post
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