moo2moo 0 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 To cut a very long story very short I'm looking to buy an underlever. I've been offered a hw77 which on paper sounds ideal but the one in question has been modified and I haven't got a clue why. If someone could explain what the mods are for I'd be extremely grateful. Brass safety catch (I'm assuming this is asthetic?) V-mach muzzle break (completely clueless on this one) Sling fittings and finally is £175 a sensible price? Thanks! Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 sling fittings = studs to attach a strap to muzzle break = a very simple (and not very effective) silencer(moderator)....but better than nothing brass safety catch is just for looks. good price though hope that helps sean Quote Link to post
moo2moo 0 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 It does. Thanks Sean Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 sling fittings = studs to attach a strap to muzzle break = a very simple (and not very effective) silencer(moderator)....but better than nothing brass safety catch is just for looks. good price though hope that helps sean A Muzzle Brake is NOT a Silencer or Moderator at all. A Muzzle brake is to help Minimize Muzzle Flip on recoiling rifles/pistols and should not be confused with a Moderator / Silencer A simple definition of a MB can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake A sound Supressor/Moderator/Silencer is used to reduce the sound of the crack from the muzzle of the rifle/pistol. Phantom Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 sling fittings = studs to attach a strap to muzzle break = a very simple (and not very effective) silencer(moderator)....but better than nothing brass safety catch is just for looks. good price though hope that helps sean A Muzzle Brake is NOT a Silencer or Moderator at all. A Muzzle brake is to help Minimize Muzzle Flip on recoiling rifles/pistols and should not be confused with a Moderator / Silencer A simple definition of a MB can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake A sound Supressor/Moderator/Silencer is used to reduce the sound of the crack from the muzzle of the rifle/pistol. Phantom yup a muzzle brake is a thing that looks like short silencer, but has no dampener inside, theres hole slots on one side that vent air as it comes out the barrel'ish, so you put the slots facing the side the gun kicks too.. or summut like that. (the target guys use them, but they do make a spanky rap noise). have a look on the net for new prices for standard guns then the bits... Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 agreed fellas he did ask for it explaining simplistically, i tried to do that and i could of put it better !!!!! cheers sean Quote Link to post
mad al 146 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Good price for a standard rifle, buy it and have some fun Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 agreed fellas he did ask for it explaining simplistically, i tried to do that and i could of put it better !!!!! cheers sean No sweat Sean, Sorry if I came across as 'argumentitive' Although I am a 'relative Newbie' to this forum I do like to be as factual as I can be when I post advice. I have been shooting on and off for 30'ish years and although I became interested in Hunting a year or so back, I have only just started out in hunting. This is because I was absoulutely adament that before I let a round loose at an aminal; I had to have honed my shooting skills so that when I hit an animal I want it to be 'Lights out' instantly and suffer as absolutely little as possible (as all good hunters do). I also have studied as many aspects as hunting as possible, from this and other forums, to books, to video and dvd's to listening to people chatting. I have Only drawn my rifle and squeezed the trigger on a 5 or 6 living animals (excluding the wasp that I decimated in the kitchen with the mussle blast from a Co2 pistol, much to the wifes disgust!) so far. 3 of these were dead before they fell to the floor, one made it almost a foot (much to my despair) before it died! and the other looked at me as if to say "Call yourself a Marksman?" before it took off running! (pellet went way over its head as my scope had been knocked out of zero). ATB Phantom Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 no....didnt think that at all although it is somtimes difficult on forums as there is no "tone" or "facial expressions" to pick up on. enjoy your hunting........im sure you will, as much as i do all the best sean Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 no....didnt think that at all although it is somtimes difficult on forums as there is no "tone" or "facial expressions" to pick up on. enjoy your hunting........im sure you will, as much as i do all the best sean Agreed Although; You have the advantage of (looking at your location) stunning location and countryside. Me, I have a river, a bloody busy road and a city (or should I say slum) surrounding my area Still my (only) 2 bunnies (so far) have tasted superb Phantom Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 yes.......i have to say its stunning around here.........and rabbit is bloody good food !!!!! and fortunately very rural.........and i have some unbeleivable permissions....see view below cheers sean Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Last time I was up there Sean, I was comming down Glaramara (in January 2000ish) following (literally) in the footprints of a mate of mine when I heard a loud "CRACK" and next tinh I know I'm up to my nose in freezing rushing water, with 3 blokes trying to pull me and my 4 stone pack out of a raging torrent! Theres nowt like a weekend trekking in the Snowy Lakes to remind you that your still alive (especially when you end up so close to death!)!! Phantom Ummmmmm..... seemed to have digressed from the original theme of the thread! Sorry Phantom Quote Link to post
moo2moo 0 Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Fab pics guys and thanks for your help. I'm now the owner of the HW77 and thanks to your comments I knew what I was looking at. The seller also threw in a sling and a padded rifle case for the same cash. Couldn't be happier. Quote Link to post
mushroom 13,919 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 agreed fellas he did ask for it explaining simplistically, i tried to do that and i could of put it better !!!!! cheers sean No sweat Sean, Sorry if I came across as 'argumentitive' Although I am a 'relative Newbie' to this forum I do like to be as factual as I can be when I post advice. I have been shooting on and off for 30'ish years and although I became interested in Hunting a year or so back, I have only just started out in hunting. This is because I was absoulutely adament that before I let a round loose at an aminal; I had to have honed my shooting skills so that when I hit an animal I want it to be 'Lights out' instantly and suffer as absolutely little as possible (as all good hunters do). I also have studied as many aspects as hunting as possible, from this and other forums, to books, to video and dvd's to listening to people chatting. I have Only drawn my rifle and squeezed the trigger on a 5 or 6 living animals (excluding the wasp that I decimated in the kitchen with the mussle blast from a Co2 pistol, much to the wifes disgust!) so far. 3 of these were dead before they fell to the floor, one made it almost a foot (much to my despair) before it died! and the other looked at me as if to say "Call yourself a Marksman?" before it took off running! (pellet went way over its head as my scope had been knocked out of zero). ATB Phantom it's ok reading, asking questions and researching (i do it all the time) as is accuracy practice but a lot of what hunting is about especialy airgun hunting can only be learnt through the experience of doing it regular . don't let little bunnies still moving after getting shot bother you mate wait till you shoot a grey and it runs off great photos sean that's looks pretty sweet up there :clapper: Quote Link to post
RustyG 0 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 agreed fellas he did ask for it explaining simplistically, i tried to do that and i could of put it better !!!!! cheers sean No sweat Sean, Sorry if I came across as 'argumentitive' Although I am a 'relative Newbie' to this forum I do like to be as factual as I can be when I post advice. I have been shooting on and off for 30'ish years and although I became interested in Hunting a year or so back, I have only just started out in hunting. This is because I was absoulutely adament that before I let a round loose at an aminal; I had to have honed my shooting skills so that when I hit an animal I want it to be 'Lights out' instantly and suffer as absolutely little as possible (as all good hunters do). I also have studied as many aspects as hunting as possible, from this and other forums, to books, to video and dvd's to listening to people chatting. I have Only drawn my rifle and squeezed the trigger on a 5 or 6 living animals (excluding the wasp that I decimated in the kitchen with the mussle blast from a Co2 pistol, much to the wifes disgust!) so far. 3 of these were dead before they fell to the floor, one made it almost a foot (much to my despair) before it died! and the other looked at me as if to say "Call yourself a Marksman?" before it took off running! (pellet went way over its head as my scope had been knocked out of zero). ATB Phantom it's ok reading, asking questions and researching (i do it all the time) as is accuracy practice but a lot of what hunting is about especialy airgun hunting can only be learnt through the experience of doing it regular . don't let little bunnies still moving after getting shot bother you mate wait till you shoot a grey and it runs off great photos sean that's looks pretty sweet up there :clapper: yeah tell me about it, i swear the tree rats round my way wear body armour! i shot one in the chest the other day n it still managed to fall out the tree, evaid the dog and crawl off before i could recover it for the pot! Quote Link to post
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