Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I thought id have a look in the preloved forum and there was a topic on working dogs, so i thought what will this say lol i shouldnt have looked as this idiot lass who reckons her family bred working dogs all her life but she hates it, she put a defra link up and apparently its illegal to kill ANY wild animal and you can only do it as pest control with a FULL pest control licence (which you must have) and its too risky as your dogs will go blind or get injured if a rabbit fights back All this was her responce to someone asking which working lurcher to get lol I dont know how ive managed not to reply and she's hell bent on she's right lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Got a link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher-lass 1 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 put the link up manda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 How do i do that?? Il try and copy and paste it as im not the brightest star lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fence_hopper Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 typical women knows it all......ahh only messing she needs a good shake to bring her back into the real world Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchers 2,998 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 the rabbits might have gloves on where she live or and big boots to nack the dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 i grew up with working dogs but personally i'm not a fan of lamping or coursing.(or ferreting for that matter!) we had all types of cross from the smaller whippet crosses to big wolfhound crosses. my dad was very good at what he did and could spot a potentially good worker a mile away and often trained other peoples dogs for them. it all depends on the individual dog and the know how of the trainer/handler, for example a whippet bedlinton in one mans hands may be hopeless but the same dog in anothers could be a star on the lamp. dont be swung into a particular cross just cos someone tells you they are the best, look at the dog, not the breed. a good worker is a dog that can catch and kill the prey with minimal fuss and pain to the rabbit/hare and will bring it back unmauled. BUT before you do decide to work, remember that for the main part and quite rightly its illegal. there is always a risk of the dog getting injured whether by its prey or a disgruntled farmer or just in the actual chase (i know of people who have had to kill their dog in the field as its been too badly injured to make it back) a poorly trained dog wont always kill the rabbit and will often end up in a worse way than its prey, do you honestly think that you would want any dog to end up blinded or worse? i am aware that your original question was simply about breed and i'm sorry for the preachiness but i grew up in this world and i know that not everyone is as good at training or handling as my dad and sister and poorly trained dogs are sadly much more common than well trained ones and not every one cares as much for their 'working' dogs as they should. fao Nobby and others, i know your dogs are gun dogs and work too but its a completely different kind of work and i know that your dogs are your family and you would never do anything to put them at risk so please dont take offence :-) also i'm not having a go at anyone, this is my personal opinion and is not directed at anyone in particular so please no p'eed off poachers or otherwise having a go. thankyou :-) Il try and find the other things she put up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 its illegal anyone that says other wise take it up with defra !!!!!!!!! you can use dogs as pest control with landowners permission well if they ask you thats it i have already posted the defra info and site but i will again lol for those who missed it you cannot work dogs for the fun of it what so ever its not allowed lol http://www.defra.gov.uk/rural/hunting/default.htm thats the site heres the law pest control only allowed lol if its wild its illegal Hunting with dogs The Hunting Act 2004 came into effect on 18 February. It makes the hunting with dogs of all wild mammals an offence, and also completely bans hare coursing. There are a few tightly-drawn exemptions to allow essential activities, such as pest control, to continue subject to strict conditions. The Act does not stop people from riding with their dogs provided they remain within the law. Hunting is not a priority for the Government. Jobs, schools, health, homes and transport are much more important to the Government and to most people living in rural areas. However, the resolution of the issue was a Labour Party manifesto commitment in 2001. The Government recognises that there are very strong views on both sides and that the issue is a matter of conscience. It has been subject to a free vote in Parliament for very many years. The Government sought throughout to find a less divisive way than the options of a total ban on the one hand or no change on the other. However, because the issue has been a matter of such contention year after year, and views were entrenched on both sides of the debate, it proved very difficult to find any common ground, and the large majority in the House of Commons for a ban eventually prevailed. The Government fully supports the right of peaceful protest, but condemns unlawful protest and intimidation. The Government accepts the right of the Countryside Alliance and others to challenge the Act through the Courts but is confident that the Act has a sound legal basis. This view has been supported in both the High Court and the Court of Appeal, where the Countryside Alliances challenge to the validity of the Parliament Act 1949 (which established the procedures under which the Hunting Act was passed) has been rejected. The House of Lords heard a further, final appeal on this issue in July, and is expected to deliver its judgement in the autumn. The Countryside Alliance has also launched separate legal challenges on human rights and European Union trade grounds. These cases were heard together in the High Court in July, and were rejected in their entirety. The Alliance has said that it will appeal against this judgement. The Government believes that it is now time to move on from the debate over the rights and wrongs of hunting and to deal with any issues arising from the implementation of the Act. The Government does not expect that significant numbers of people will find themselves out of work as a result of the Act. Jobs related to hunting are few compared with other rural business sectors, such as the horse industry and tourism. Hunts have also demonstrated that it is quite possible to continue to ride within the law so there is no reason to suppose that many people will face serious difficulties. The Government is, nevertheless, keen to ensure that anyone affected by the ban knows about the wide range of information, advice and support available to them. It is also keen to ensure that animals used in hunting should not have to suffer. It is, therefore, grateful to the RSPCA for its offer to help with the re-homing or other care of dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digger dan 0 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 retard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 well nw if they take offence then they dont mind being criminals do they ;0) totally agree it is illegal had another thread on this too someone tired to say its ok when defra dont agree lmao(not including gundogs nobby ;0) but anyway working lurchers size deerhound or wolfhound x greyhound makes a good lurcher if you work as a pest controller with dogs :0)collie x g/h too but i prefer the first The question was whats good breed for a working lurcher, but they all f*****g bunny huggers on there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Other shit there too but its bad enough with anti b*****ds on here, so my 1st visit on there will be my last lol but then theres loads of topics on my dogs had puppies or my dogs pregnant HELP and they get no grief lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fence_hopper Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 a poorly trained dog wont always kill the rabbit. a good dog shouldn't kill them she means she knows nothing by the sounds of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest manda Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 a poorly trained dog wont always kill the rabbit. a good dog shouldn't kill them she means she knows nothing by the sounds of it I thought you guys might find it as entertaining as i did lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher-lass 1 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 This women dose sounds abit of an idiot, but please men dont think we all are lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Personally I wouldn't even waste my time trying to educate pork.................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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