And your not a chavy c**t take a look at yourself calling people chavs some of the best hunting men I've met are from council estates they know every bit of cover every earth about the countryside know most farmers going... I'm from a council estate what would you know...I own a farm I'm in the countryside everyday know most farmers about got permission everywere I could bring you to most corners of the country and know plenty of ground to hunt and your banging on about council estate wankers lol your a tube runs about like a turkey keeps a couple of budgies and a clapped out lurcher if your