I fully understand what you are saying plucky on the experience front I don't have much as for the fell and more land in my area there are only 6 members and all except 1 are green including me so no advice given there and if entering s dog who had 4 previous digs into a spot which is 1.3 is a bad thing then I suppose I'm guilty as charged but let's face it that ain't deep . And yes I've found a professional terrier man in hunt service who is willing to take me when ever I want and he will accompany me to my permissions