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  1. Unfortunately this will be the last one, as the East of England ground have decided its no longer profitable

    and will not be continuing after this year with the Autumn show, so hope people will come along and show their support.

     

     

    Sunday 8th October

     

    At:

     

    East of England Showground
    Peterborough
    PE2 6XE

     

    Simulated Coursing for Lurchers, followed by Straight Racing Overs and Unders for Lurchers, and Whippet and Terrier Racing.

     

    Booking in from 8.00am

     

     

    Open Showing from approx 12.30 with classes for Lurchers and Terriers will be back again this year, with rosettes and trophies.

     

     

    (The day will also feature the British Supreme Lurcher Championship organised by Pat Quant at 10.30am)

     

    There'll also be Long Jump and other things to keep you occupied all day!

     

    Stalls, food etc too.

     

    A good fun day out, well run, and all profits go to support Lurcher Link - lurcher specialist rescue.

     

    Part of the Autumn Food and Country Fair - http://autumnfoodandcountryfair.co.uk/

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  2. Don't worry about people on hear, they tend to get a bit over excited with new people, especially if its a woman.

     

    If your on facebook i can point you to a small group, where there's a few women on there who ferret etc

    some don't live a million miles away from you.

     

    In the mean time you would be better doing a bit of work with your ferret, getting it used to being picked up from the floor

    from coming out of tunnels etc, nothing worse than a ferret that either goes to bite or backs off and does a runner when your trying

    to get hold of them.

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    Where did i say there was no fear in aggression, theres different types of aggression and not all of them has fear behind it, dogs will also show that fear in different ways.

     

    One i had pts just before christmas was fear aggressive towards other dogs, he showed some of the classic signals but also some different signals as well to show he was stressed and that was chewing himself and if pushed to much he would hyperventilate.

     

    Now another dog i met a couple of weeks ago whilst doing a home check showed different signals again, hackles up, bouncing up and down on front legs, barking and going in to a bow, with in 10 minutes the same dog was placing a toy on my lap, all dogs can show different responses, its how you interpret them what counts, interpret them wrong and you end up bitten or worse still screwing a dog up further.

    It's all part of the positive claptrap ," there are many types of aggression "what I'm saying there is one aggression but just different temperaments that's how it's going to be expressed in a different manner

     

    Some dogs implode some explod depending on temperament , why complicate things , trying to blind people with science

     

    How complicated do you think dogs are , what's the bottom line bud

     

    Try explaining the nature of dogs , it's not difficult but then I suppose you'll say there are many different natures

     

    Your doing home checks on people but you don't really understand the nature of dogs, your in a self serving position that lets you make judgments but at the root of it all you're all just making it up as you go along, it's not about dogs it's about you

     

     

     

    Well seeing as i've been H/C people for the last ten years, also transporting unknown dogs ie pound dogs and have took strays directly in to my home

    with my own dogs,

    i've never got one wrong yet, all dogs are still happy in their homes.

     

    Casso

     

    Who said i was positive only and who said i don't let the mutts display natural behavior ?

     

    cause i can assure you i very much do, you can learn a lot by watching the dogs natural behavour

    and suppressing that behavior can often do more harm than good, why do you think

    my bitch was not pts when she bit an adult family member ( no blood was drawn), for the simple fact her natural behavour

    ie warning before biting had been suppressed, by who ever had owned her, her only way to show she was not happy was to bite

    once i understood her triggers and her signals ( which were very small) they was worked on and if she did snap

    i put that down to my fault for not listening to her, using negative training or even adverse would simply not have worked with her.

     

     

    Squeamish5

     

    Were not fighting lol its just a simple debate

    its actually good to debate things once in a while.

     

  4. Where did i say there was no fear in aggression, theres different types of aggression and not all of them has fear behind it, dogs will also show that fear in different ways.

     

    One i had pts just before christmas was fear aggressive towards other dogs, he showed some of the classic signals but also some different signals as well to show he was stressed and that was chewing himself and if pushed to much he would hyperventilate.

     

    Now another dog i met a couple of weeks ago whilst doing a home check showed different signals again, hackles up, bouncing up and down on front legs, barking and going in to a bow, with in 10 minutes the same dog was placing a toy on my lap, all dogs can show different responses, its how you interpret them what counts, interpret them wrong and you end up bitten or worse still screwing a dog up further.

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  5. What your dog is showing is submissive behavours, he's giving lots of signals out to say he's uncomfortable, when the bloke walks off thats the dogs chance to scare the threat away.

     

    To understand dogs you really need to understand what there saying, dogs give us clear signals every day, its just we tend to ignore them.

     

    There is a book called on talking terms with dogs, i haven't read it yet, even though I've got the book, but its supposed to be quite good.

    en.turid-rugaas.no/calming-signals---the-art-of-survival.html

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  6. But how is the ordinary dog-owner to tell the difference? Or, for that matter, the average local 'dog-trainer/ behaviourist', that they consult when their dog shows aggression?

    For some reason it wont let me post the photos, so had to use links.

     

    Because different body language is shown.

     

    for fear

    They may show avoidance, licking of lips, low body, no eye contact, turning head away.

     

    my bitch when i brought her home ( she is a rescue dog), deemed a dangerous dog and if the law had of changed before then she would have been pts

    as she did bite without warning and did bite a further two more times just weeks after bringing her home, due to not her fault, but people not listening to what they were told.

    https://get.google.com/albumarchive/111192008996311547239/album/AF1QipPDcGTP-FwZCBaxMzoOVh6bm3Tt_YYyHnh8V6s/AF1QipNfvZdOpsBlpP1c6tVCEHkFtXLmXh2SdxgxqtI

     

    Taken just a few short weeks after arriving, you can see the difference in the way she is, she looks more relaxed.

    https://get.google.com/albumarchive/111192008996311547239/album/AF1QipPDcGTP-FwZCBaxMzoOVh6bm3Tt_YYyHnh8V6s/AF1QipPEetniMHhOdldxUhMkbeJZa2ceo8z6mtnhBeI

     

    The same bitch over 4 years later, in the first year this picture would not have been possible, as she would avoided contact with anyone she did not know,

    she now will go up to anyone to be fussed, is quite happy for anyone to hold her and quite happily will lounge around with my nephews having a fuss.

     

    from what we can piece together she was a working dog before coming to me, i've not had to do anything with her on the working side.

    https://get.google.com/albumarchive/111192008996311547239/album/AF1QipPtZB65Xr8nbba5omdkcpdWYB0kFqxpP3tlZ1g/AF1QipOfE6NGiMZJdLfJl9wqRSFMcTpt8wEQrO8mAm0?authKey=CLWH-MqRooDm7QE

     

     

    Now an aggressive dog, may be more forward, may try to make its self look bigger, it will also give eye contact

    ears will be up etc etc.

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  7. How complex are dogs , what's the bottom line , what's the nature of dogs bud

     

    A lot of these cults Just see what they want to see and when something crops up they don't understand they make shit up ,

     

    Some of the positive crew don't even believe in the Drive concept but they give advice to pet dog owners who have not idea of working dogs, and how harmony can come about through working together if they don't understand drive how can you understand dogs ,

     

    Or you tell me what drive is ?

    im interested to know how complicated dogs are , I've walked driven dogs past bitches in heat to get to a bite object, ??how does that happen ,

     

    What I'm asking is how can there be a stronger pull than reproduction in a dog , if the passing on of genes is in second place , why is the urge to bite not referenced in the slightest by any of your dog training cults ?? Do they really get what dogs are all about

     

     

    If you google, there are plenty of trainers who advise working with a dogs drive,

     

    a dog’s drives; the major drives that we use in dog obedience training or other types of dog trainings are primarily the;

    • Prey-drive
    • Defence-drive
    • Fight-drive
    • Avoidance-drive

    http://www.training-your-dog-and-you.com/drive.html

     

    and your dogs may well have passed the in season bitch as they were being obedient.

  8. Would the multi million dollar dog training industry even exist if people worked their dogs

    , never seen an industry with so many snake oil salesmen in it because folks can't pin point the truth ,

     

    they think they have it figured out until the dog does something they can't understand or it flips out , they then start making up stuff , projecting thoughts or saying the dog is crazy

     

    Life for a dog is not like a box of choclates, it's more like a can of coke, stimulate it enough without release and your going to get a massive build up of energy , if you could let the energy out regular you won't get the massive volcanic explosion when the energy does finally get free

    Working dog owners know the truth don't be hoodwinked by snake oil sellers who have built an empire by rejecting canine energy as a bad thing

     

     

    Sorry but yes it would still exist.

     

    Dogs are a lot more complex than that and even the best dog trainers in the world including those who work their dogs

    can fail with a dog.

  9. If its damaged then most bone men will not touch the dog, as it could cause further damage, might be worth you looking at lazer treatment as this can help areas heal, ken may have a look but after what happened to him last time when he ended up in court he might not.

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  10. Try kelp in his diet as well, had a bitch who suffered from seasonal alopecia

    never had a problem with hair loss when she was given kelp.

     

    This may interest you though, you said the only change was its now darker in the dogs run.

     

    Light responsive alopecia or seasonal flank alopecia is most often seen at this time of the year. It is not well understood but is thought to be from lack of sunlight exposure to the pineal gland.

     

    http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/seasonal-affective-disorder-can-be-culprit-canine-hair-loss

  11. Go and see a physio one who does deep tissue massage and acupuncture, if you go to a proper one they should check your alignment first

    before starting any treatment, after over 11 years with constant muscaler problems in my legs I'm virtually pain free,

    if i over do it - i recover a lot quicker. I suffer with Iliotibial band syndrome due to having Over-pronation where as my ankles tilt inwards

    and mild hypermobility in my knees which can cause the muscles tighten and cause muscle pain.

     

    Both massage and acupuncture can help with blood flow to the legs also.

     

    A foam roller can also help loosen up any tight muscles or use a massage ball with a muscle balm,

    i normally use Dynamint.

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