Ive struggled my bollox off trying to get a black pup off two genuine good earth dogs ., i looked at these jagds got talking to a few folk and the thing i thought to my self was some of the best of these dogs are all present now in trials and below ground and theres video evidence to see so and titles to back them up . They cost a fair bit ive took a gamble hoping they will work out for me . They are a hard dog to keep though i struggle some days wnating to get rid of them lol .. but ive got 2 jagds Pups 2 black pups hoping i get some luck with them