just a quick one lads and lasses , built me ferret court last week and to be honest am sick of ferrets spilling feeders over , and sh*ting in them so a come up with me old Hen feeder solution , which some folks might already know is guttering ! make your guttering in lengths of about 1 foot , 2 end caps on and 2 brackets on the wall and BINGO you have an water tight drinker and feeder , also off the floor so it keeps them clean . wish a had patent it could of made a fortune haaa just thought a would share me old idea with you !