I get what you're saying mate but when you make your pit and your half way down and do a check and it says for instance 4.4 in every corner and the middle then there's something wrong with the box, I find it more with the red brick than the green peeps, also sometimes break in on the side of the tube whereas every time with the barryvox it's been on the dogs neck, never thought you could get any better than the bellman until I bought a barryvox