i took my young pup out lamping just to try him before the harvest,he is just over 8 months .he is a collie bull grey,first time i gave him one slip which was no kick up and for his first run done real well and got it and to be fair he earned it .so i was well chuffed ,second time just the 1 slip again and got it again ,then took him sunday night and he had 3 slips and got 2 and realy looked like gettin the 3rd.i was over the moon with him.needs a but more retrieving with him but he is keeping them well alive .i no the rabbits ant at there best now but a good start in my eyes .ps will put a fe