whent out yesterday and cleared a patch of snow on rape tried for a couple of hours but nothing moving as far as the eye could see we decided to go look at another bit of permission to see if we could bay some on way to roost , when we arrived we have never seen so many in one field must of been every bird for miles around all in one flock they have gone through a field of rape like locusts .must of been 4000 + in a small field next to us ,we had half hour or so and bagged some as they started leaving .all were quite far from us but the odd ones came over ,i took one out and paced 68 yards was