hi dave, thanks again for this morning, now i really know what the buck fever is all about and i love it. Keep your drugs and drink ill stick with this one. Man i am still buzzing again many thanks daves a top bloke and very good teacher am learnnig loads every outing and, didnt want to let him down by a poor shot today so well chuffed. That my shot landed bang on where i wanted it to, First deer 120 yds bang on shot chuffed to bits one i will never forget. Will post pics when i get home again thanks dave for all your time effort and sharing all just a wee bity of your experiance.