he used 2 own and run 2 very good dogs swoop and ace i bought a big black pup off len when i was a lad he was adecent dog not match matieral but could kill hares everyone knew len was not a et and loads bought cheap wormers and jabs from the man cause they were cheap and his dogs and pups he used to sell all were in good condition cant knock him he was 1 of them men you will remember for the rest of your life once you met him he could spin a few lies but he was a great bloke who did not deserve jail