the dog's i started with were nothing like the show dog's,totally different.hancock wanted to use my dog's in his article a few year's ago but i wouldn't let him,since the article people are thinking that it's only the last year or so i've had them,it's not i've had them for year's,the bitch ellen is a ringer for her great grand mother.over the year's i've place'd them where i can get my hand's on them should i need,most people look at a litter andthink that the big,fat bellied,heavy pup is the best,it's not (that's macho bull shit )that pup will turn out to be a lazy,gutsy,slow shit,(great fo