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  1. hare,iv had dogs that would not stand a chance on a good hare,but deer were readily taken,jmo :thumbs:

    thats suprized me as i thought if a dog was able to take a deer in the day he would have been able to take a hare. in your opinion/experience what do you think the hare as that the deer doesnt to make him harder to catch.

     

    i would say size it is easier to take something that is about the same size as a dog compared to a smaller hare the dog has to get down and be precise or it misses i have taken both in the day and i would say fallow are easier :drink:

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  2. hello i have an air arms s200 mk2 for sale the gun is in very good condition with only the odd marks with it is an air arms silencer a nikko sterling scope and a cammo gun bag all in all a very good gun i am asking £210 posted whoever buys it will not be dissapointed am only selling because i have a new daystate my telephone number is

    07870765769 thanks anyone interested i will send some photos to there phone :thumbs:

  3. i would definately say they are far from thick anybody that lives with one will tell you they aren't thick the three quarterbred i have now that spend's most its time indoors know's what am going to do before i do she let's herself out to go for a piss plus anybody thats seen one keep an hare away from cover will know yhey aren't thick

    but they can be persistant in most thing's they do but as pot fillers there great

  4. are they out ad out hare coarsers or can they do the lot.must admit i never used t like them.well and truly seen the light now though.just wanted few of your opinions cos am really interested in this breed.only down side to one i can think off is hidin it from the p***y thievin :censored: s.atb.mat

     

    Depends where you hunt mate...... If you can see the nearest fence within the horizon...... no good. :whistling::no::hmm::whistling::thumbdown::victory:

     

    yes cause they can only hunt on the fen foolish comment there's plenty of saluki and saluki crosses that can kill field and fen and it will take a bit more than a fence to stop one when it's behind something and my two do fox when i come across them but i don't kill them week in week out so i can't say my dog's are out and out fox killer's but they manage fine when i run them

  5. one of my pup's that my relation has is 10 month old that was pretty bad he'd come with in arm's length of you but you wouldn't get him on a lead then he'd walk but always stay that couple of steps in front he just bared with it sometime's it would take 30 min's of just stood there not moving till he came back the more you shout and scream the more they'll take the piss but he bared with it he's coming on a lot and the very worst thing you can do is lose your rag when it doe's come back you hit it, it won't come back the next time it's off

    one of the pure's my dad had 35 year ago would sometimes dissapear when out or if it got out the back would dissapear for week's on end it alway's came back but if it felt like dissapearing for a while you wouldn't stop it all i can say treat them right bare with them and when it get's there it's well worth all the effort

  6. i also don't think much to bull xs especially one that throw to the bull side i have seen a few descent but apart from fox what else are they good for not much in my opinion as a single handed hunting dog there are better breed's but i only bother with fox when i cvome across them thre's more to hunting then killing fox just ask your self this if you and your family was starving you had no electric for a lamp so could only walk during the day what breed x would you want to put food on the table bull x would be my last option just my opinion

     

     

    When is anyone ever going to be that desperate in this day an age to depend on the dog to provide food? If i was that hungry i'd go and fill a trolley up in tesco and leave ...

     

    Fact of the matter is a good bull has more drive and tenicaty than a good dog of any other breed. Fact. That is why they are bred to into lurchers. You chase rabbits, some people chase foxes, SO THEY GET A DOG FOR THE JOB. Would you give your collie x 10 foxes a week, week i

     

    no there not but if they was a bull x would not be the dog of choice like i've said to a digging man / lamper there maybe are great but if you want to catch day and night all rabbit,hare,deer and fox when you come across them not flying about throwing them out of vehicles thats what i've done when ive been lamping and doin a few foxa night and proberbly the only way you could kill ten a week to walk with one bull x and kill ten a week would be a tall order especially if there not urban fox not every night a week is right for lamping fox pluss what about abceses and swelling face and mouth ive killed fox with bull x's and seen what a good night foxing takes out of a dog

    and i dont run collie crosses but have and they are good dog's your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten the biggest myth of all is that you need a bull x to kill fox i've seen a pure greyhound kill a fox before before the bull x's even got there and they want far behind as i look at it to kill all there are better than bull x's

     

    But thats the whole point .. people do not buy bull xs to be pot fillers!! It seems to be impossible to believe but its true!!

     

    Im not getting into the arguement of how to catch them but 10 in a week is easily possible , and i never mentioned it all to be 100% single handed, as for numbers, most people double up. The foxes still bite. As for swelling etc. That is the point im making, a good bull x runs just as hard with its head like a balloon.

     

    your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten -- don't quite know what you mean here? As for collies been good dogs, im not saying they arn't but they cannot compete with bull x at a bull xs job for a sustained period of time. Excption to the rule of course.

     

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    Heres a picture of the damage foxes done to my collie whippet type bitch (both sides of her mouth where the same, this was after a hard week; 2 nights of being doubled up on 3 foxes and a night of 2 foxes. So a total of 8 foxes in 7 days ( not including other quarry caught inbetween). It resulted in 2 weeks lay off and then she would have a night out and they would open up again. And you could see it hurting when she bit down on anything, thus she would be laid up again for another week or 2 rather than push her and cause the enitable - spuewing. I was running a saluki/bull grey at the same time and he picked up some much worse injuries, but never did i get any signals from him that enough was enough. He always had plenty more in him even when phsycally he really didnt. I've seen this repeated through several other what i would call 'good' bull xs but its something ive never seen in any other breed.

     

    If you believe any other breed can compete with a proper bull x at the job bull xs are intended then id like to see these dogs preform consistantly and then i'll readily admit the bull xs is a useless wanker :clapper:

     

    Oh and just for the record, the only dog in my kennel is a collie x ATM. :victory:

     

     

     

     

    mate i agree with what you have just said it is what i have been saying to a man who likes taking things that bite back there great if you want to fill the pot there very average but as for most people double up why is that if a bull bull x has speed stamina y double up i for one no as soon as you double up your stacking the odds in your favour a good dog should take quarry on it's own the bull x my mate has is about 13 now 3/4 grey 1/4 pitbull and that is the best bull x i've seen took all the fox single while i was out with him and that about six seasons and he had what you say a heart as big as anything you could wish for i seen him kill one fox and have all his top teeth on one side coming through his lip and still be game for another believe me i are'nt saying there shit he could also take deer and rabbit and the odd hare were as dog's that could'nt live with him on the fox were always better on rabbit hare and deer what i'm saying

    i'd rather have a dog that can always fill the pot and take fox when there there rather than one that is there to smash fox thats just what i prefere and i have never seen a staffy cross or ebt cross that would have lived with that 1/4 pitbull it was just a completely different animal to the staffy crosses i've seen again just my opinion

  7. believe it or not i get all my batteries for free from my local tip not all work but last year i had 16 from there that worked and 3 so far this year.have a look at your local tips trust me its worth it atb.

     

     

    i to get mine from tip and sometimes from scrap yard you just pay them the scrap money

  8. i also don't think much to bull xs especially one that throw to the bull side i have seen a few descent but apart from fox what else are they good for not much in my opinion as a single handed hunting dog there are better breed's but i only bother with fox when i cvome across them thre's more to hunting then killing fox just ask your self this if you and your family was starving you had no electric for a lamp so could only walk during the day what breed x would you want to put food on the table bull x would be my last option just my opinion

     

     

    When is anyone ever going to be that desperate in this day an age to depend on the dog to provide food? If i was that hungry i'd go and fill a trolley up in tesco and leave ...

     

    Fact of the matter is a good bull has more drive and tenicaty than a good dog of any other breed. Fact. That is why they are bred to into lurchers. You chase rabbits, some people chase foxes, SO THEY GET A DOG FOR THE JOB. Would you give your collie x 10 foxes a week, week i

     

    no there not but if they was a bull x would not be the dog of choice like i've said to a digging man / lamper there maybe are great but if you want to catch day and night all rabbit,hare,deer and fox when you come across them not flying about throwing them out of vehicles thats what i've done when ive been lamping and doin a few foxa night and proberbly the only way you could kill ten a week to walk with one bull x and kill ten a week would be a tall order especially if there not urban fox not every night a week is right for lamping fox pluss what about abceses and swelling face and mouth ive killed fox with bull x's and seen what a good night foxing takes out of a dog

    and i dont run collie crosses but have and they are good dog's your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten the biggest myth of all is that you need a bull x to kill fox i've seen a pure greyhound kill a fox before before the bull x's even got there and they want far behind as i look at it to kill all there are better than bull x's

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  9. if you want to kill a few fox a night then the the bull x is sound i see bull x's that do bunny's but what i'm saying is if you was hunting say first light for food so running the odd bunny hare and deer is a bull x still going to be able to take a hare deer from say a 75 yard slip and say it misses the first hare or deer after a good 4 minute course is it going to be able to run more till it catches all single handed dont get me wrong baiting lamping fox , deer sound will kill them but then what is there to eat fox no thank you deer proberbly with its legs chewed up and pretty much all of it smashed thens theres getting the dog off whatever its got plus the pulling your arm off all night is not for me each to there own if your a digger or love lamping then there sound but if you want to lamp and run the day and you want to eat what you catch then in my opinion theres much better

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  10. i also don't think much to bull xs especially one that throw to the bull side i have seen a few descent but apart from fox what else are they good for not much in my opinion as a single handed hunting dog there are better breed's but i only bother with fox when i cvome across them thre's more to hunting then killing fox just ask your self this if you and your family was starving you had no electric for a lamp so could only walk during the day what breed x would you want to put food on the table bull x would be my last option just my opinion

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  11. tomo i disagree with out at weekends at nite the local police are busy in towns to come out in the country side were during the week ,they are quiter , been tried and tested ,shows you what you no mate ,during the week the local contabulary are not to busy , weekends they are busy with pubs etc keepers have shoot days on saturdays , ille say no more

     

     

    don/t no about you mate but whenive been caught lamping it's always been by a pigs from a village never from yhe town im in if you get reported they come regardless what day or time back on topic i dont agree with some there was six coursing at dinnertime they deserve it ifyou have mates who course you go out to see whichg dog is best on the day and whatever happened to going out at first light and coursing mosta the day plus you want to run hares most places with plenty of hares with mostly be on top if you walk the fields in daylight and get seen more than likely the old be will come its a chance you have to take to course hares

  12. i have a dog indoor and some kenneled the one that's alway's indoor is a lot more head strong were the kennel dog's will always come and get stroked the indorr dog will do it when they want to be stroked other then that the indoor dogs coat look's a lot better most a the year but a we showing them or working them

  13. basic things for me are recall and i don't mean standing there screaming get here now when your out lanping i like a dog to come back to me straight after the run whether with the bunny or noti like to do retrieving from a young age but as for walking good on a lead most dog's out for a lamp will pull especially if theres a few dog's jumping is a must aswell no good carrying dog's over thing's and to lay and be quiet in a motor plus i alway's socialize them to people, dog's and sheep horse's etc if a dog doe's that and fill's the pot i'm happy

  14. if the dogs have shelter are kept in clean conditions fed and watered the rspca cant bother you if someone int doin that they deserve am taking off them but as for hunting it isnt animal cruelty in my eyes so they shouldnt be interfering in that

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