bez 0 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 my young lurcher bitch is 10 months now ,i had a few teething problems with her training but slowly but surely things were starting to click with her,anyway the other day went on a walk down the river bank with her but i recalled her on way back to van to go home the little shit just ignore me and wouldnt come back .i didnt go fetch her i just kept calling her until she came back on her own accord she new she done wrong because when she come near me she was nearly crawling on her belly,so ive decided to take her to a local dog trainer do you think thats best plan of attack?can you still train a 10 month old ok or will it be harder?thanks for any replys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bez 0 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 anyone any advice or views? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 anyone any advice or views? Train yourself to train the dog........gundog training books are the way to go IMHO. moxon is a good author. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bez 0 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 thanks for that mate anyone else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pignut 4 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I got my lurcher when he was about 10 months old. Of course you can train him. Decide what you want to achieve and then work with him regularly in an enclosed safe area with few distractions to start with. Get his attention. See what his motivations are - food, appreciation, whatever and work with what succeeds. My dog wouldn't give you a thank you for a reward, but if you up your voice and sound enthusiastic, then he thinks it is worthwhile coming back to be "thanked". Reward good behaviour and either ignore the bad, or respond to the bad but remember you only have 3 seconds from the request to the response before you decide whether to say "oi" or "good dog". Also, use the same words all the time. Be consistent. If others are training too, get them to use the same words. No dog understands the many variations of sit, halt, stop, walk, etc. A long line is useful to start with to get the dog to come back. Also play lots of games, fetching, retrievng games are very good in the garden. Your thanks and praise for bringing the ring/ball back will make the dog want to do it more. I prefer these methods than food rewards but if the dog is food orientated then this is always a good way into their head. Best of luck. One thing - be consistent. Limits, the dog needs limits and consistency. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
labsnlurchers 39 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 my young lurcher bitch is 10 months now ,i had a few teething problems with her training but slowly but surely things were starting to click with her,anyway the other day went on a walk down the river bank with her but i recalled her on way back to van to go home the little shit just ignore me and wouldnt come back .i didnt go fetch her i just kept calling her until she came back on her own accord she new she done wrong because when she come near me she was nearly crawling on her belly,so ive decided to take her to a local dog trainer do you think thats best plan of attack?can you still train a 10 month old ok or will it be harder?thanks for any replys Im glad the dog is coming on for you mate, just be patient. In all honesty the teething problems you have been having with her are pretty normal for a lurcher of that age by the sounds of it. But 10 months old is fine for training, slowly does it, be patient and keep it fun for you and the dog because theres no point getting mad it will just make things worse, Im not saying dont discipline bad behaviour, just when she is taking a bit of time to learn something dont loose all hope and get wound up etc, she will get it im sure and you obviously are putting time into her you will see the rewards soon enough. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccroryart 0 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I’m training a 5 month old pup at the moment. I think a dog whistle is better than calling his name as it carries better in the wind and the sound is consistent – the dog wont sense that you are getting more and more pissed off when he wont return. Even though you don’t hit him he will know from your voice that you are not happy. I have my whistle attached to my coat zipper so its easy to find. I practice recall all the time inside and out. Best to start when he looks like he is about to come back to you anyway – when he does come make a fuss and give the odd treat. Eamonn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Most puppies at some point around the 10 mths mark, turn into devil dogs! I call it the teenage stage, everything you've taught them they ignore, it is very frustrating! In my mind it's just part of their maturing process, pushing boundaries and challenging dominance. I always tend to go back to basics and get the smelly treats (cut up hot dogs are great!!!) out again and loads of praise, short, exciting training sessions. You'll probably find in the next few weeks she'll go back to being more obedient. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Catcher Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 my young lurcher bitch is 10 months now ,i had a few teething problems with her training but slowly but surely things were starting to click with her,anyway the other day went on a walk down the river bank with her but i recalled her on way back to van to go home the little shit just ignore me and wouldnt come back .i didnt go fetch her i just kept calling her until she came back on her own accord she new she done wrong because when she come near me she was nearly crawling on her belly,so ive decided to take her to a local dog trainer do you think thats best plan of attack?can you still train a 10 month old ok or will it be harder?thanks for any replys I have been there mate.I would say all lurchermen have. It was about 1993. The dog was about the same age. She was coming on a treat It was only a small burn she had crossed almost every day but this time she sat on her ass and would no move for love nor money.I tryed every think i could think of to get her to come to heal she just sat there looking at me as if i were daft.Fineily i lost the plot and bawed her out.at this she got up tunred her back on me and walked away.Luckily It was only four hundred yard from my house by the time i got there she was sitting at the back door.I just gave her a good hard look put her in the pen.I did not take her out or pet her for two days.but when i did that was the happiest dog i had ever seen.After that she came on great a few more teething problems as whit any dog you are training.Ican honestly say to this day.She turned out to be the best dog i have ever owned.So i would say dont take it to local trainer this could confuse the dog if his comands are not the same as yours.Do it yourself mate at ten months there is still a lot of training to do. its already got a bond whit you its you who feeds ,pets, walks it and so on.As you say it,s starting to click.As time goes on you,ll begin to understand how the dog works.plus as it get older and wiser it will understand you.And when it all comes together.You have the pride of knowing you did it yourself.ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
furdy 0 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 There's some really good advice there. Its interesting that she done this on the way back to your van, what sounds like has happenened is she has realised that she is nearly back at what she considers a safe place. When walking out from home she is looking to you as her leader and protector so wont naturally stray too far but I think she has possibly worked out she is close to the van and so has the confidence to make her own way back. Its not a bad thing, it shows you are giving her the confidence to develop, it just needs to be controlled. All dogs have a point at which you will lose the long range control, they decide they are far enough away and off they go. On the way back next time, keep her closer. Keep giving the recall and bringing her back to you while she is still close enough. If she starts to ignore you, clap your hands together loudly to get her atttention. When she looks at you, bend down, walk slowly backwards and call her back with as much enthusiasm as you can. Then loads of praise when she comes back. If she still goes, stop calling her. That will only teach her that its ok to ignore you. The only option now is to walk to her and put her on a lead. Dont speak, just ignore her and put the lead on. If you look at things from her point of view, she is only going home and doesnt know she has to wait for you. If you get cross, she'll think you are angry because she went home. Stay calm and it will be easier to resolve. Good luck... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bez 0 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 thanks for advice everyone i will take it on board,i think she wouldnt get in van because she was having a great time in the fields and didnt want to go home,will let you all no how im getting on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bez 0 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 update:the recall much improved tonight took her to the playing field nearby she came back alot better so im gonna keep at the training im not going to be beaten lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I reward good behaviour, and punish them when they misbehave when I set about training my terriers. A Reward would be a little treat like a chocolate button, and I'd punish them by giving them a quick whip across the ass with the lead. You ain't gonna cause any damage doing this, but its a sharp enough correction for them to know that playing up will result in a sharp pain and they soon collar on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 update:the recall much improved tonight took her to the playing field nearby she came back alot better so im gonna keep at the training im not going to be beaten lol That is a must, don't give up on the training if you do then you're going to be stuck with a dog that wont do as it is told. Keep it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Tender Love 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hi bez, Frustrating when they don't come running back~yet so rewarding a feeling when they do~at least that's how I've felt with Flay. From the age of about 6 months till he was a year & a half if he saw another dog away in the distance he'd run off to it & turn completely deaf to me. Eventually I got around him by, much as folks say in this thread~rewarding him for when he did come back & ignoring the bad behaviour, the ignoring thing I took to use as a tool~Flay HATES to be ignored, so for the times when he just wouldn't come & I had to goto him, on those occassions when I got to him I'd say not a word to him, put his lead on him & walk him straight home in complete silence without making any eye contact with him~that seemed to be the thing that worked more than anything else with him. He's fine now, he still loves to go running with other dogs but at least now he'll listen to me if I want him to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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