tail docking

[trader 0]

Lad who works for mes bitch had a litter of terrier[jack russell] pups this morning what is the law about docking at a vets. Can he ask for 1 to be docked as hes keeping it for himself for work or can he have more done. You would have thought he would have found this info out before any help welcome

[Keeps 403]

As long as he has the correct paperwork (a letter of permission from a landowner saying his dogs are worked on the land, or a firearms license) he can ask for the whole litter to be docked, in England (theres an outright ban in Scotland) - if it is likely that most of the pups will go to working homes.

 

The exemption allows certain types of working dog to have their tails docked by a veterinary surgeon. The dog has to be no more than 5 days old and the veterinary surgeon must certify that he or she has seen evidence that the dog is likely to work in one of the specified areas."

 

Note use of the word "likely".

 

Taken from the Defra site:

 

Certification requirements

3.—(1) A veterinary surgeon may certify that he has seen evidence that a dog is likely to be used for a specified type of work and is a dog of a specified type, where—

 

(a) he is satisfied that the dam of the dog is of one or more of the types specified in Schedule 1;

(b.) he reasonably believes that the dog is not more than 5 days old; and

© the owner of the dog, or another person whom he reasonably believes to be representing the owner, has shown him the evidence specified in paragraph (2).

(2) The evidence is—

 

(a) the dam of the dog;

(b.) a completed statement, signed and dated by the owner of the dog or by another person whom the veterinary surgeon to whom it is presented reasonably believes to be representing the owner, made in paragraph 3 of a certificate in the form prescribed in Schedule 2; and

(c.) one of the following—

(i) where the dog is presented for certification on behalf of one of Her Majesty’s armed forces, armed forces identification;

(ii) where the dog is presented for certification on behalf of a body providing an emergency rescue service, emergency rescue identification;

(iii) where the dog is presented for certification on behalf of a police authority, police identification;

(iv) where the dog is presented for certification on behalf of Her Majesty’s Prison Service or of an organisation contracted to provide custodial services on behalf of the Secretary of State, prison service identification;

(v) where the dog is presented for certification on behalf of Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs, HMRC identification;

(vi) evidence that the owner of the dog, or an agent or employee of the owner most likely to be using the dog, will be using the dog for work in connection with lawful pest control;

(vii) a current shotgun or firearm certificate issued to the owner of the dog, or to the agent or employee of the owner most likely to be using the dog for work in connection with the lawful shooting of animals;

(viii) a letter from a gamekeeper, a land-occupier (or his agent), a person with shooting rights, a shoot organiser, a club official, a person representing the National Working Terrier Federation, or a person engaged in lawful pest control, stating that the breeder of the dog whose tail is to be docked is known to him and that dogs bred by that breeder have been used (as the case may be) on his land, or in his shoot, or for pest control.

(3) Any certification given under paragraph (1) shall be made in paragraph 1 of a certificate in the form prescribed in Schedule 2.

 

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/act/docking.htm

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/ac...certificate.pdf

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/20071120.htm

 

Hope that helps. Finding a vet who will dock at such short notice may be the difficult bit.

[trader 0]

thanks for that keeps good info hes had 63 odd days to sort this out and waited until now

[bucknut 1]

Its shite isn't it! more money to the vets to keep the anti hunt welfare ponses happy.

Is there no way we can do our own and prove retrospectively?

 

Any other gen people?

 

Cheers Buck

[bucknut 1]

Its shite isn't it! more money to the vets to keep the anti hunt welfare ponses happy.

Is there no way we can do our own and prove retrospectively?

 

Any other gen people?

 

Cheers Buck

[Keeps 403]

Cost me £20 altogether so I dont think the vet was ripping me off + £15 for the chipping which I'd have done in any case.

[undisputed 1,664]

Lad who works for mes bitch had a litter of terrier[jack russell] pups this morning what is the law about docking at a vets. Can he ask for 1 to be docked as hes keeping it for himself for work or can he have more done. You would have thought he would have found this info out before any help welcome

 

 

Some shows wont let you show dogs that have been docked after the ban came in...f**k em! I dock my own shows will suffer eventually....wouldn't have a terrier thats not been docked.

[earth&hounds 94]

so a ban from keeping dogs for five years and £1000.00 fine + PLUS IMPRISONMENT IS IT WORTH THE HASSELL BUY THE FROM IRELAND