FELL OR PATTERDALE?

[takman511 42]

I know an old terrierman who has this wierd quirk. I showed him my two black terriers, and when he saw the bitch he said "that's got patterdale in it" I thought WTF is he going on about?

He says this a lot, and it really has baffled me. I thought they were one and the same thing???

 

My dog is a taller rough type (N Stevens, Parks /Wheeler) and my bitch is a small smooth big headed type. (Nuttall/ Brightmore mix)

Can anyone help as this has done me head right in Ta

i was told by an old terrier man that fells are rough haired and patterdale were the smooth

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

Its got nowt to do with the coat (rough/smooth)

Most terrier men up here will call owt with mixed blood or not of a recognised breed a 'fell' . Most border/lakie types and patterdale lookin' things get called 'fell' terriers in this area.

 

But the patterdales are not just a fell type anymore, they are more a breed in thier own right, and the name patterdale has stuck, might as well have a name. (just guessing that its because early specimens of the type were from that area).

[Guest ooty]

patterdale is a village in the fells there aint much differance,their both full ov bull blood now

[Bantam cock 1]

It all depends on the person who keeps the dogs.

I class them all as fells, in the same litters of evan close bred lines you will get smooths and coated dogs.

Going to shows and you will see dogs from the same owner, same litter or line in differant clsses.

 

Does it realy matter, what someone calls them ?

[Tracy36 0]

It all depends on the person who keeps the dogs.

I class them all as fells, in the same litters of evan close bred lines you will get smooths and coated dogs.

Going to shows and you will see dogs from the same owner, same litter or line in differant clsses.

 

Does it realy matter, what someone calls them ?

I think naming something is just a shorthand thing. give it a name and instantly you know without a lenghty description what is being described. If i said I'd got a blue hatch back car, it could be any blue, shape, etc but if I said a new corsa you'd instantly know what it looked like (assuming you knew about cars that is). just my opinion.

[quickdrawmcgraw 0]

reading this thread with great interest.

My 'lad' is a 3yo fell terrier from Cartmell Fell in Cumbria sired by a Middleton strain dog.He's a hard little bugger ,frightened of nothing,runs all day.Good rabbiter and ratter,not tried him on foxes yet.

 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,969]

I was always lead to believe that the principal defining seperation is the patterdale "mindset"

[jonesy 111]

Got a smooth black pat laky cross,a rough black laky and a black and tan laky whenever anyone mentions breeds,like fell or pat,i just act ignorant and say i was sold them as russels confuses them but it if the dog works who cares im sure the dog is nt arsed,

[Tiff 36]

we just call them coloreds!