foexs shot .22 hornet

[sounder 9]

a fox i shot with a new 22 hornet that my old man got a few week ago

 

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Questions, mate;

 

What range was the shot?

 

What ammunition was used?

 

Is that the entrance wound?

 

Did the round exit (yes or no will do. I don't want to see it ) or stay in?

 

 

I've always used Remmington HP, up untill now. I find (except on very small stuff, which they vapourise) they tend to stay with the target and make what I'd imagine must be one hell of a mess inside. Don't think I've had one exit anything four legged yet. I like this because it suggests maximum shock at around the point / moment of impact. Blowing bone fragments and entrails up a field is, to my way of thinking, a waste of Lethal kinetic energy. It also suggests a reason for firing which is quite removed from a simple job of pest control. I'm far from expert, but that how I see it anyway.

 

Only I was recently told of some possible " Ballistic Tipped " Hornet rounds being available. Nylon tips?

 

Whilst I'm happy with the general effects of the 'standard' Remmy ammo, I'd obviously like to try something else, just to compare. Rather wondering what the objective of " Ballistic Tipped " rounds might be though.

 

Any thoughts, please?

 

Cheers.

[sounder 9]

Questions, mate;

 

What range was the shot?

 

What ammunition was used?

 

Is that the entrance wound?

 

Did the round exit (yes or no will do. I don't want to see it ) or stay in?

 

 

I've always used Remmington HP, up untill now. I find (except on very small stuff, which they vapourise) they tend to stay with the target and make what I'd imagine must be one hell of a mess inside. Don't think I've had one exit anything four legged yet. I like this because it suggests maximum shock at around the point / moment of impact. Blowing bone fragments and entrails up a field is, to my way of thinking, a waste of Lethal kinetic energy. It also suggests a reason for firing which is quite removed from a simple job of pest control. I'm far from expert, but that how I see it anyway.

 

Only I was recently told of some possible " Ballistic Tipped " Hornet rounds being available. Nylon tips?

 

Whilst I'm happy with the general effects of the 'standard' Remmy ammo, I'd obviously like to try something else, just to compare. Rather wondering what the objective of " Ballistic Tipped " rounds might be though.

 

Any thoughts, please?

 

Cheers.

range about 150

remmy hp55g

yes that where it landed

yes right out the other side he move abit as i pulled

there are the only ones we use here a mate uses them to

they do the job for us cheers sounder

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

55gn? F*ckin hell! I honestly never even knew they existed for Hornets! And it went through at 150? Stroof! That's got to be some punch!

 

I wish I knew more about all this, because I'd love to be able to consider stuff like the powder load differential and all the bits and pieces which probably yeself are perfectly up on. Sadly, I know shit and just accepted what the shop suggested I should use and carried on asking for more of the same.

 

 

Oh! Sorry! Mine are 43gn, if I remember rightly? Threw the last outer box with all the printing on it away. 42 or 43. Have ye ever used that load? If so, what do ye find you feel are the advantages of the heavier load?

 

Sorry to be all over ye like this. It's just that you're one of so few fellow Hornet shooters I can ask about stuff!

[Mr_Logic 5]

55gn? F*ckin hell! I honestly never even knew they existed for Hornets! And it went through at 150? Stroof! That's got to be some punch!

 

I wish I knew more about all this, because I'd love to be able to consider stuff like the powder load differential and all the bits and pieces which probably yeself are perfectly up on. Sadly, I know shit and just accepted what the shop suggested I should use and carried on asking for more of the same.

 

 

Oh! Sorry! Mine are 43gn, if I remember rightly? Threw the last outer box with all the printing on it away. 42 or 43. Have ye ever used that load? If so, what do ye find you feel are the advantages of the heavier load?

 

Sorry to be all over ye like this. It's just that you're one of so few fellow Hornet shooters I can ask about stuff!

Count yourself lucky you can get more of the same, round here i bought all the Hornet ammo and the buggers haven't got any more!!

 

The ballistic tip in question is either Remington or more likely Hornady 35g, it flies at 3100fps, and though it loses energy quicker, starts more powerfully and flies flatter. It's also bloody well loaded and so very accurate. Basically if it's in stock, "I'll have that one please." ... "How many would you like?" .... "Oh, as many as my ticket says..."

 

And nobody ever has it round here so I've not tried it, but I've never ever heard a bad word said, and lots of good stuff. I have hornet rounds whizz through foxes all the time. Last week's Hornet fox only had a little though, lots of damage done internally there. Softpoints are terrible for it - you need very accurate shot placement or foxy gets up :-(

[Guest JohnGalway]

Only I was recently told of some possible " Ballistic Tipped " Hornet rounds being available. Nylon tips?

 

http://www.hornady.com/ballistics/terminal.php

 

Not entirely what you're after but it does say in a roundabout manner that ballistic tipped bullets are good for varmints as they expend their energy faster into the target than say hollow point or soft point. Since foxes and (safe backstopped) corvids are smaller targets a ballistic tipped bullet will do more damage in a shorter distance inside the target than other bullet types.

 

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to clean up what I said but basically that's the advantage they hold

[Lewdan 17]

Questions, mate;

 

What range was the shot?

 

What ammunition was used?

 

Is that the entrance wound?

 

Did the round exit (yes or no will do. I don't want to see it ) or stay in?

 

 

I've always used Remmington HP, up untill now. I find (except on very small stuff, which they vapourise) they tend to stay with the target and make what I'd imagine must be one hell of a mess inside. Don't think I've had one exit anything four legged yet. I like this because it suggests maximum shock at around the point / moment of impact. Blowing bone fragments and entrails up a field is, to my way of thinking, a waste of Lethal kinetic energy. It also suggests a reason for firing which is quite removed from a simple job of pest control. I'm far from expert, but that how I see it anyway.

 

Only I was recently told of some possible " Ballistic Tipped " Hornet rounds being available. Nylon tips?

 

Whilst I'm happy with the general effects of the 'standard' Remmy ammo, I'd obviously like to try something else, just to compare. Rather wondering what the objective of " Ballistic Tipped " rounds might be though.

 

Any thoughts, please?

 

Cheers.

we can get 35 & 40 grain ballistic tips hornaday bullet heads at our local gun shop ( litts of newport ) load them up to suite your rifle, but use hodgsons Lil-gun powder this will increase fps and reduce pressure, i have used both rounds and they are devestating Another good bullet i have used is the 30 grain Berger hollow point does about 3,300 fps out of my K hornet, very accurate and a hell of a smack.. at the moment my mate is loading up for me but i hope to start soon as i kitted out.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Mr Logic: Thanks. I believe these rounds are available to me. I'm almost certain they'd be the Hornady ones too.

 

Just to clarify: This all stems from a sparked off memory of something Dean O' said to me in passing the other day. One of those snippets of conversation which one doesn't quite assimilate at the time but which remail lodged somewhere.

 

Keith: I'm not allowed - nor am I capable - to load my own here. Frankly, the kit (were it allowed) would likely cost me more than it'd be worth anyway. I'm not a 'heavy user' by any means.

 

 

a ballistic tipped bullet will do more damage in a shorter distance inside the target than other bullet types.

 

 

What ye saying then, John? ' Hit's them like a train. Knocks them flying. But stays with them.' ? Only, if so, I'll be racing Mr Logic there to the shop!

 

If I can, I'd like to try to better express my interest and requirement here:

 

I'd prefer a round which will impart maximum shock and damage to the target. But I prefer all that to happen as a 'Crump', inside. Rather than simply causing maxamised 'Opposed External Damage', if ye get my meaning.

 

Actually - for those who understand what the f*ck I'm about to mention - it's just struck me that I'm basicaly looking for the .22 Hornet equivelent of the Glazer Safety Round!

 

So, apologies to Sounder, for rather hijacking his Thread. Only this is what I was trying to formulate my initial question to him around.

[Lewdan 17]

Mr Logic: Thanks. I believe these rounds are available to me. I'm almost certain they'd be the Hornady ones too.

 

Just to clarify: This all stems from a sparked off memory of something Dean O' said to me in passing the other day. One of those snippets of conversation which one doesn't quite assimilate at the time but which remail lodged somewhere.

 

Keith: I'm not allowed - nor am I capable - to load my own here. Frankly, the kit (were it allowed) would likely cost me more than it'd be worth anyway. I'm not a 'heavy user' by any means.

 

 

a ballistic tipped bullet will do more damage in a shorter distance inside the target than other bullet types.

 

 

What ye saying then, John? ' Hit's them like a train. Knocks them flying. But stays with them.' ? Only, if so, I'll be racing Mr Logic there to the shop!

 

If I can, I'd like to try to better express my interest and requirement here:

 

I'd prefer a round which will impart maximum shock and damage to the target. But I prefer all that to happen as a 'Crump', inside. Rather than simply causing maxamised 'Opposed External Damage', if ye get my meaning.

 

Actually - for those who understand what the f*ck I'm about to mention - it's just struck me that I'm basicaly looking for the .22 Hornet equivelent of the Glazer Safety Round!

 

So, apologies to Sounder, for rather hijacking his Thread. Only this is what I was trying to formulate my initial question to him around.

SORRY MATE, WAS NOT AWARE OF RESTRICTIONS....

[Mr_Logic 5]

What ye saying then, John? ' Hit's them like a train. Knocks them flying. But stays with them.' ? Only, if so, I'll be racing Mr Logic there to the shop!

As I understand it, that's the general idea

[SNAP SHOT 194]

DITCH i'd go for factory ballistic tip ammo, something fairly fast, As this will explode on impact, rather than exit, but if no solid tissue is hit may exit from time to time, but 99% of the time explode, i shot a dog fox last night at 148 yards with 58 grain v-max no exit hole and this round was tripping at 3680 fps.

try some hornady's and give us a report. if not tell gunny to order some. Is he caller trapper @@@@@ by any chance.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

I wish I could find / reach TJ, mate. He's well spoken of around here.

 

No, I have to use Dave, down at Carragallan. Dean has always used him and I usually try to go along with Dean for the trip. It'd cost me double the cost to go alone. Taxi fare about matching the cost of a box of ammo.

 

Anyway, as it was Dean who mentioned the BT's, he'd likely have been speaking of what he heard from or saw at Daves. I have half a dozen rounds left right now. But there's also the cost of a new box to consider. I'll see what's happening at the end of this month. I'm not a heavy user. But, when I do come to look for a fresh box; I certainly fancy these BT's!

[Guest JohnGalway]

I've two numbers for TJ if you want them, he's in Tulsk. Never been myself.

 

That's the idea of the BT bullets alright, but, last fox I shot was .223 at 189 yards and it left a large exit wound, have yet to put up the post. Shot side on just behind the shoulder as per my usual. Now, how many fragments or how far they will go is well beyond my knowledge. I can't speak for Hornet though and how it will perform. I've had plenty of exit wounds from BT but in saying that I'd feel better a BT exiting than a hollow point or soft point.

 

Just for new shooters sake, nothing will replace a good backstop

[SNAP SHOT 194]

After the ballistic tips hit they fragment into pieces even if pass through most will not go far but a ightly said john nothing beats a good backstop,

I've been to TJ'S once he's got a nice place but it's about three hours from me.

I've found that most irish gunny's will try to sell you anything if your not clued up.......................

A man once tried to sell me a hawke scope for a 6.5x55 saying they were ideal, no deal was my reply and i walked out........

TJ has a good rep alright. it's traveled this far north............

[Guest JohnGalway]

I've found that most irish gunny's will try to sell you anything if your not clued up.......................

 

Ain't that the f*****g truth Mind you, saying that I have had a couple steer me in better directions Doesn't happen often though!