molehill 26 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 (edited) Also iv never done this but iv heared bleaching the stock may help to remove the dark areas? May be worth researching. Jimmy will proberbly know if this may be worth trying. Edited January 9 by molehill 2 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 6 hours ago, molehill said: Also iv never done this but iv heared bleaching the stock may help to remove the dark areas? May be worth researching. Jimmy will proberbly know if this may be worth trying. Yes Jimmy has used wood bleach to good effect but I am quite convinced that I simply have imperfections in the stock as I can see the pattern going right through the stock when viewing the butt. I use True Oil on my shotguns when needed so I am familiar with the product although I have never done one from scratch as you and Jimmy clearly have. I am still not sure about the oil finish as varnish will also bring the detail out and I can lightlly sand / Wire wool between coats to get a good finish as I have done in the past however I agree an oil finish is a thing of beauty but with the flaws in this stock, I am not sure it is worth it. I have just applied both red and blue water based stain with a brush to get more dye into the surface and it looks better than the photos I did yesterday. The red looks bloody good as well.................decisions decisions decisions. Phil 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,858 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 6 hours ago, molehill said: Also iv never done this but iv heared bleaching the stock may help to remove the dark areas? May be worth researching. Jimmy will proberbly know if this may be worth trying. I done a s410 stock once with wood bleach And the results were amazing But u have to no what ur doing Or it can all go horribly wrong Some of the dark patches are use over the years something I've found many times Sometimes u can remove them some times you cant But the trick is to blend it into the stock and the stain so it looks like it was supposed to be there Phil is trying his best and its his first time so i appreciate his effort Iv done some guns for him one a nice shot gun stock that he was happy with It looked lush when I finished it And that had dark patches on it to The trick is dont rush it its not something u can do in a couple of days Atvb Jimmy 2 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 Decision made.................................IT'S BLUE. 2 Quote Link to post
molehill 26 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Apologies philpot i did not realise you have used tru oil before, hope i wasnt patronising i got a bit carried away lol. Your making me want to do another stock now. You made the right choice in colour! 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 Photo to follow after a second coat of dye is applied 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, molehill said: Apologies philpot i did not realise you have used tru oil before, hope i wasnt patronising i got a bit carried away lol. Your making me want to do another stock now. You made the right choice in colour! Don't worry as I didn't take it that way at all, I have not done a stock from the start, only to refresh a shotgun stock so it is still a learning curve. Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 Well most of the day I have been lightly sanding and wire wool treatment to get the stock nice and smooth and so to the colour. Yes blue was the favourite all along although red got close but blue won. On the stock, I had thought of applying colour with a cloth as I would have done had the dye been spirit based but as it was water based and I didn't know how well it would penetrate the wood surface, I decided to use a brush which seemed to work very well in my eyes. Now 3 coats of colour applied and a gentle smoothing with 000 grade wire wool, it is now ready for oil or varnish, still thinking about that but as I have tung oil, I may just use that. Time for bed..... 1 Quote Link to post
molehill 26 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Looks good, the darker patches make it look better! 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, molehill said: Looks good, the darker patches make it look better! I agree the dye has enhanced the darker areas and look quite good now. Tung oil is going on later today, might as well use what I have rather than going to buy varnish. 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,858 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 12 hours ago, philpot said: Well most of the day I have been lightly sanding and wire wool treatment to get the stock nice and smooth and so to the colour. Yes blue was the favourite all along although red got close but blue won. On the stock, I had thought of applying colour with a cloth as I would have done had the dye been spirit based but as it was water based and I didn't know how well it would penetrate the wood surface, I decided to use a brush which seemed to work very well in my eyes. Now 3 coats of colour applied and a gentle smoothing with 000 grade wire wool, it is now ready for oil or varnish, still thinking about that but as I have tung oil, I may just use that. Time for bed..... I like that Phil i like that alot 1 Quote Link to post
molehill 26 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, bigmac 97kt said: I like that Phil i like that alot I bet it would pop nicely under a nice gloss tru oil finnish Please help me change his mind lol Edited January 10 by molehill Quote Link to post
molehill 26 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Wait and get tru oil, gloss it will look mint. You can allways make it matt if you dont like it. Quote Link to post
philpot 5,166 Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 First coat of pure tung oil is on which has produced an aqua marine shade of greeny blue which I must say looks really nice. Tomorrow afernoon after clay shooting a second coat will go on. I am letting it dry at the moment and I will pop on an up to date photo after two coats although I will take some photos at each stage for me but don't worry I won't bore you all with endless piccies. Phil Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,858 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, philpot said: First coat of pure tung oil is on which has produced an aqua marine shade of greeny blue which I must say looks really nice. Tomorrow afernoon after clay shooting a second coat will go on. I am letting it dry at the moment and I will pop on an up to date photo after two coats although I will take some photos at each stage for me but don't worry I won't bore you all with endless piccies. Phil U c the fleck in the stock now with a few coats of oil on it they will turn golden And Will high light the blue It will look amazing 2 Quote Link to post
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