Truther 1,579 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 My understanding is that there isn't any such thing is a genetically identifiable Celtic blood in the British Isles, it's a mixture of individual genetic populations with a common cultural heritage. I'm sure Anglo saxons and 'celtic' people will share common ancestors as well as having mixed occasionally. But why would that make any difference to this data? I'm probably not grasping it tbh BH, i know next to nothing about genetics mate, but iv'e always thought the Celts had a big influence on European bloodlines, if its identifiable in the European blood that supposedly populated the UK, why is it not identifiable now in us? But reading the article Beast posted it looks like the Celtic influence is a myth anyway, seems more cultural than genetic? Funny how this other study found plenty of Scandinavian influence and the other one hardly any? Like the old saying goes "you can prove/disprove anything with statistics" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 My understanding is that there isn't any such thing is a genetically identifiable Celtic blood in the British Isles, it's a mixture of individual genetic populations with a common cultural heritage. I'm sure Anglo saxons and 'celtic' people will share common ancestors as well as having mixed occasionally. But why would that make any difference to this data? I'm probably not grasping it tbh BH, i know next to nothing about genetics mate, but iv'e always thought the Celts had a big influence on European bloodlines, if its identifiable in the European blood that supposedly populated the UK, why is it not identifiable now in us? But reading the article Beast posted it looks like the Celtic influence is a myth anyway, seems more cultural than genetic? Funny how this other study found plenty of Scandinavian influence and the other one hardly any? Like the old saying goes "you can prove/disprove anything with statistics" The two studies seem to agree on the Celtic link being purely cultural and not genetic. I don't particularly understand genetics either but what I think I 'understand' is that the researchers look for genetic similarities in certain populations to identify them, these only become identifiable once that population has been relatively isolated, otherwise they would be no different to their parent populations or other immigrants from the same source. So even if two individual immigrant populations came from the same source 1000 years ago, they will have developed their own genetic identity. But I'm not wiser than you, just my 'understanding'. The most interesting part for me, which both the studies seem to agree on, is that the Germanic invasions after the Romans left were not genocidal or displacing in nature. There is clear integration. That just makes sense to me. Interesting they disagree on the Scandinavian influence though as you say. I wonder how much of this is to do with journalism rather than science though.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Genetics is open to "interpretation" i think BH? Don't know how true it is but a bird (left wing, PC, womens lib, lesbo lol) told me they can test your DNA and tell you which part of Africa your ancestors came from Not really sure about that You don't need genetics to see the Germanic invasions weren't genocidal mate, my dialect is closer to German than the queens English tbh, i picked German up like shelling peas when i lived there, long time ago now though, some of the dialect words, which don't really exist in the English language, are spelt differently, not that there's an official spelling like, but they sound the same as the equivalent German words, meanings are the same/very similar, i would have thought that meant merging, rather than killing off? Journalists are always pushing some angle or another, scientists aren't much better, they all have to work for an organisation, and to keep their job they have to tow the line eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 If we all take our family trees back to the stump, we wandered out of Africa about 125000 years ago. Give or take a leap year and adjust for bank holidays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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