Genetics

[jwhizz420 177]

just out of curosity mum is a ,x,y,z cross and dad is a w,x,z cross,will the pups be same,more like mum,more like dad,maybe grand parnats genes come trough,anyone enlighten me

[cocker 2,655]

genes don't work in percentages like that, you could have any combination from xyz wxz

[Stigodadump 64]

Jeez that's a hard one

There is people that will tell you their mutt is 1/8th this and 1/16th that etc....................Bollix!

The soup of genetics in the average lurcher on lurcher mating can mean every pup in the litter is a different combination, and the likelihood of getting and even predictable fraction of the separate gene pools is pretty remote in my opinion.

[jwhizz420 177]

guess its nature,so anything is possiable, so if breeding pedigree dogs,the litter will be more stable,pups simalar size and shape and characteristic,but breeding lurchers evey pup in the litter can be diffent,size shape and colour,, understanding a little now thanks stig

[brazer 287]

There were a topic regarding genetics in dogs before explains how they work

[Stigodadump 64]

if you cross a pedigree sight hound with a pedigree collie say then you will have pups that are 50-50 because there are only a set amount of genes and they are two distinct types. So the pups will all have half of the mothers and half of the fathers genes.

 

Once you cross a lurcher or non pedigree type into the mix with the afore mentioned pups things becomes more complex. Say you take a 1st cross collie greyhound from a known true blood mating and put a Bedi whippet stud over it some people would tell you the pups will be 1/4 whippet 1/4 collie 1/4 bedlington and 1/4 greyhound.They won't be that at all. What you will have is pups with 50% of each of their parents genes but its which 50% you get that makes it interesting.

 

Try getting equal numbers of four colours of smarties. take two colours and put them in one bag and the remaining two colours in another bag. Next shake the bags up and take out half at random from each bag and put them on the table. These are the pups from a lurcher on lurcher mating from two first crosses.

 

So if there are more breeds in the parents make up then the sequence of colours gets more complicated as you can imagine. Basically you can hope that you are breeding in the good traits of both parents and none of the bad ones but it's far from an exact science. Believe me, I have been trying to get the perfect bedi whippet for around 30 years and I'm still at it!

[Casso 1,264]

Regardless of whats in the parents or what the parents are , you are still going to get a litter on the ground with individuals temperaments needed to form a pack

 

Which means , say in a pack of 8 pups , 2 or 3 will be forward harder tempered pups, the same number will be softer shyer more wary pups and the rest will fall somewhere in the middle of the scale,

The reason for this is because dogs bred with evolution in mind , same as wolves , they need to cover all avenues because they never know what the environment will impose or what traits will be needed for the breed to continue

 

A pack needs forward aggressive members also softer more watchful types more aware of danger or threats , this is how a pack functions best ,

 

It's also why even when we bred from 2 top dogs the pups will fall on different rungs of the temperament ladder from abrasive dominant down to shyer more cautious types

 

No matter what the genetics are Mother Nature governs the pups more than anything

Edited October 10, 2013 by Casso