Garypco 3 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 I never said I was the best microchipper in the world, I said none of my microchips that I have implanted have moved, that is a whole lot different to a dog being PTS by a rescue because of complications with the Data protection act. I also never said I was the best tattooist in the world, what I did say was that the NDTR guy came to do my pups years ago and didnt do a very good job, two dogs had to be re-done and I ended up deciding to do them myself because I reckoned I could do a better job, so far I havent had to re-do any tattoos either. If you want to get bitchy then send me a PM, if you actually have a point to make that is :11: :11: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> most problems with chips moving can be a number of things,mainly what you do with the dog afterwards,the dogs trust recomend no bathing,no brushing ,no serious excersise or swimming for a period of at least two days,this then gives the chip a chance to settle,theese days it generally isnt the chipper as long as he's been taught correctly(i.e between the shoulder blades)before this prossedure was changed most people chipped too high on the neck shoulder area thus ensuring gravity took its course and the chip then usually strayed p.s i think charlie has contributed well to this topic and should be commended not contradicted!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 thanks Gary I chip between the shoulderblades as I was trained to, but I must admit I have seen vets who chip in a similar way to vaccinating, and much higher up in the neck area, which could be a cause for chips migrating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timid Toad 18 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 i took my lurchers to be micro chipped by a warden at the ncdl and one bitch had to be done 3 times because he kept shooting it stright through the skin and out the other side u can immagine how my bitch felt after having that needle jammed in her for the third time. how much training do u need to have before u are qualified to do this ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Sounds a bit unprofessional I wonder if they had proper training, it sounds like the answer would be No. I went on a course with a friend who does Scottish Ferret Rescue and we were there for a full afternoon. We listened to a talk about the history of microchips, then the vet showed us several demonstrations of her inserting the chip into a fluffy dog toy and then we had to practice ourselves with the vet watching, boy did that little toy dog get pumped full of needles that day once the vet was confident with our technique, we had to microchip 3 of our own animals (we did 3 dogs) while she watched (offering tips if she thought we were doing anything wrong). We then qualified and the vet signed the forms to say we had done it properly under her supervision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lurcherbitch Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 I too am qualified, But i have chipped hundreds of dog's(between the shoulder blades) so would'nt know if any chips miragted. I always tell the owner to get the dog scanned when taken to the vets for check ups ect. Timidtoad....I am shocked at the NCDL (now dog's trust) for how your dogs was treated. Whats even worse.....most people go to them for training Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 what is wrong with chipping at discount price? We buy our chips for about £5 each (vat included) guess what.................we charge the price of the chip to anyone who wants to have their dog done.......why? well if someone in the veterinary proffession can explain to me why they need to take £15-20 extra on top of the price of the chip just to perform the procedure and then fill out a simple form, I would love to know about it, because chipping takes seconds when done properly by a competent trained person, and the filling out of paperwork isnt such a huge task so why the hell should people be ripped off and go to their vets and pay way over the cost of the chip just to get a little peace of mind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,264 Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 i did the same course as u charlie c . remember loki its only subcutainouse(under the skin) injection and i bet most of the dog lads on these sites inject there own dogs on ocasion. with anti biotics, vacsines ect. why are you so against someone doing it at a show, for far less mony than a vet.? have u met me at a show in the midlands by any chance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 I don't agree with letting some random person stick a chip in a dog <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I cant speak for other microchip companies, but Petlog do not allow "random people" to buy their chips, scanners, equipment etc, in order to chip for Petlog you have to go on their training course and qualify, so I cant see how "random people" can be doing this procedure, its a very narrow market with just a few companies operating, if they sold chips and scanners to every Tom dick and harry off the street, they would lose much of their revenue from the training courses, think about it :11: I have a simple solution for anyone whos worried, a qualified trained microchipper will have a certificate to say they are qualified, if you are in any doubt, ask to see this certificate as proof, and to anyone who does discount microchipping, mobile microchipping etc, I would say to take your cert with you whenever you are chipping animals, and then if someone with an attitude has a problem with what your doing you can show em your cert and ask them.......politely of course.............to bugger off and mind their own business Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nastybilly Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 well awe ma dogs just love there chips :11: :11: :11: and they dont care a feck who fries them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 :11: :11: :11: @ NastyBilly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garypco 3 Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 :11: :11: :11: @ NastyBilly <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As a dog warden i was trained by the dogs trust it was spent one afternoon in a local rescue,the dogs trust train to a very high standard and dont give the chips out unless they feel confident it sounds quite bad that a dog needed to be chipped three times,unless they were short staffed or the people holding the dog was'nt competent(not that untrained staff would be chipping i meant holding)other than that it seems a bit dodgy could you tell me what show and the date/describe the dog il have a chat with the dogs trust see what their opinion is!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doug Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 One of my dogs was very thin skinned and the vet had to chip her three times as the chip went straight through the skin like that. Good vet and very embarrassed about it. Chip never moved once in, so he must have got it right. Have mine tattooed now though. Seen too many chips move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lurcherbitch Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Oh for god sake!!!!.....What planet am i on!!!! Lets get real. Your only as good as the person that trained ya,(in what ever you do) unless you got common sence. The vet that trained me was crap......i got my certificate...didnt feel comfortable with what i was told and whent to another vet that taught me right. We the public have a choice......it is up to us............we aint stupid (well most aint) . We all know it is good to chip...now if people choose mc donalds or burgerking it's there choice...give it a rest Sorry...had a bad day :11: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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