Phantom 631 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Very well put Si Now Liam, if you wish to ignore whats been mentioned, thats your look out. Remember not long back a guy was prosecuted for shooting a Pigeon Why? because he hadn't learnt to shoot! He hit the bird it dropped to the ground and he had only wounded it. So he was prosecuted for wounding the bird and causing undue distress and suffering. In short Animal Cruelty. How did the authorities know? One of his neighbours just happened to see him as he took the shot. Dont forget that Vermin such as Rats have the same level of legal protection as other animals. Even the ones on the vermin lists Tony Quote Link to post
BS40liam 203 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Hi Liam, People on here are trying to help you out and give you good sound advice. You seem to defend yourself and come back with answers that to many a sound hunter and air gun shooter are still not correct mate. Wether in your garden, in a barn shooting rats or ferals or in a field shooting rabbits there is a lot more to shooting than just pointing at a target with a cross hair and pulling the trigger. The species you are on about shooting, rats and ferals are not as easy as you think. As someone as already said shooting quarry at close range 2 to say 8 or 9 metres is harder than shooting a rabbit at 25 to 30 metres which is what you will probably zero at I'm guessing. You put the cross hairs on a rats brain at 5 metres and you will miss guaranteed mate with the pellet impacting under its body into what ever it was standing on. Like wise if you do the same on a ferals brain or where you see the heart as you will either miss completely or wound the feral hitting it near the anal region. Like wise calibre and power depending, if you shoot at the rat of ferals brain at 18 or 19 metres you will miss completely with the pellet impacting above in the back stop. The things that the lads above have mentioned are meant to help you out buddy, and learning these essential skills take more than a few hours work in the garden. Yes we have all been young and yes I have done the same as you, but I didn't have the experience of men and woman on a forum when I was young to listen to like you have buddy. If you lived closer I would happily take you out a few times and try and demonstrate the above points to you on paper. Wounding is not nice and people that shoot rats and pigeons and then show their shot quarry on a photograph are only kidding themselves if in reality they needed 2 or 3 shots per rat / bird to kill it cleanly. This to me isn't shooting. Learn the proper way by taking your time mate and doing it the right way. My finance Laura has only been shooting occasionally 2 or 3 times a year for nearly 3 years now. She learnt the proper way and her HFT scores verify this. She is more than capable of hitting any target from 8 to 45 yards when I tell her which mildot / aim point to use but she still hasn't shot at any vermin species yet because if she was to shoot at a target without holdover and hold under help and advice from me she would 50% or the time miss I would think. I want her to do it right and not experience the self distress of wounding.This takes time as you will undoubtedly find out buddy. Anyway not a rant at you, just the way it is mate. ATVB Si. thanks for that, and like I've said I understand where people are coming from but like also I'm not a big fan of guns I prefer ferreting but its hard to explain and get my point across over a forum but really I hardly ever pick the gun up so learning all this stuff really isn't important ( I know it sounds bad bit its the truth). So if my guns sighted uP already and I see a rat in my garden I will take a shot no ifs or buts about it, I don't take a gun onto permision as its not my cup of tea and the point of this thread was purly to find out a quick way to sight my gun up so I can shoot some targets that's it. I take all advise on board and I do appreciate advise don't get me wrong and I will have a giggle at statments like shooting game is a privalidge but that's just me I find it funny, I really do no where people are coming from so don't take it all to heart. Thanks again atb Quote Link to post
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