Training to spot the lamp

[Guest born to run1083]

it will come to the dog when it sees a few rabbits in the beam or if u have another dog thats lamping let it watch it for a while

 

Heard others say that aswell but I don't like to let a youngster watch another dog lamp, they can get frustrated wanting to be off chasing and while let out a yip or two when pulling on the strap.

 

As some have said the penny will drop through time and it shouldn't take long.

 

I sometimes take a mate with me when I'm starting a young dog. I get him to bring his air rifle and shoot a few on the lamp, if he knocks them over it's an easy retrieve for the pup and even if he wings the rabbit it gives the pup a better chance.

I love that line '' might get frustrated watching" no offense mate but when people are out lamping with a pal with two dogs out what do you think the other dog is doing when chasing it's quarry, obviously it's watching then does this mean your only going to go lamping on your own and never be out with other dog as you might get a yapper on your hands.

Regarding getting him to watch the lamp the more he's out the quicker he'l learn, if he's only out once a week don't expect things to come in a flash, get him out as much as possible doesn't have to be to long yet just regular intervals. With places where theres lots of quarry. The more rabbits he runs and sees on the lamp the more it will click, just don't over do a new dog

 

Are we not talking about starting a young dog? Plenty of time to go out mob handed after the pup has gained some experience and knows what's required of it.

I think it's more common then you think using your experienced dog to bring on a pup, and two lads with a dog each is hardly mob handed, one for the lamping one for carrying, two dogs to alternate when doing big loads on big shifts again not uncommon and certainly not mob handed.

[birddog 1,354]

interesting topic, we all seem to have slightly differing approaches but all seem to have their positives, and no bickering................is this really thl

[Guest born to run1083]

iv'e found it easier to start a pup in the park at night with a dummy on the lamp, when the pup picks up the dummy switch off the lamp and we're reinforcing good habits from the start, once the pup's moved on and done well with dead rabbits it knows what the lamp means taking it out is usually much easier and stress free, i believe it also helps them pick up sitters, it's also important to consider the dogs temperament a bold confident pup may learn watching another dog work but a quieter more reserved pup may learn more on it's own, just my own thoughts

I Done that with my bitch in the field, grass was slightly longer so she couldn't rely on eye sight had to use the lamp to find it, used her favorite toy, from the first night out she's been quite efficient on squatters on any land stubble/ grass/ plow. I still put it down to the work I put in early on to the reason she does this

[tote 861]

it will come to the dog when it sees a few rabbits in the beam or if u have another dog thats lamping let it watch it for a while

 

Heard others say that aswell but I don't like to let a youngster watch another dog lamp, they can get frustrated wanting to be off chasing and while let out a yip or two when pulling on the strap.

 

As some have said the penny will drop through time and it shouldn't take long.

 

I sometimes take a mate with me when I'm starting a young dog. I get him to bring his air rifle and shoot a few on the lamp, if he knocks them over it's an easy retrieve for the pup and even if he wings the rabbit it gives the pup a better chance.

I love that line '' might get frustrated watching" no offense mate but when people are out lamping with a pal with two dogs out what do you think the other dog is doing when chasing it's quarry, obviously it's watching then does this mean your only going to go lamping on your own and never be out with other dog as you might get a yapper on your hands.

Regarding getting him to watch the lamp the more he's out the quicker he'l learn, if he's only out once a week don't expect things to come in a flash, get him out as much as possible doesn't have to be to long yet just regular intervals. With places where theres lots of quarry. The more rabbits he runs and sees on the lamp the more it will click, just don't over do a new dog

 

Are we not talking about starting a young dog? Plenty of time to go out mob handed after the pup has gained some experience and knows what's required of it.

I think it's more common then you think using your experienced dog to bring on a pup, and two lads with a dog each is hardly mob handed, one for the lamping one for carrying, two dogs to alternate when doing big loads on big shifts again not uncommon and certainly not mob handed.

 

When I wrote "mob handed" it was tounge in cheek mate. I agree it's handy to have two dogs when doing "big loads on big shifts" but the thread was about starting a young dog off on the lamp and the way I do it is to take the pup out by itself, others like yourself might use another dog, each to their own.

[Guest long-tail]

as paulus says,dont take em long

Edited August 14, 2012 by long-tail

[chrizzy22 0]

cheers lads i go out with 2 others and the dog is always going mad to go he has caught 2 rabbits so far lucky cathes as you say it will come to him cheers lads appreciate it