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it got to be the owners of the dogs, but i have had few prob with labs that want to fight with other dogs, it must be in them then .? But ive been beating few seasons, and you get labs + springers in the back of motors , and no probs. So its the owners then, as the guns would not keep dogs wanting to kick off all the time .!

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Same in France/Spain Golden retrievers are a popular breed here as well as labs, pretty much every one Ive seen and encountered has been very over weight, and damn aggressive too... had to beat one off that went for my lurcher bitch, she dont back down from any dog so it would have got nasty... the daft bloke came out with the same old shite... never done that before hes just a pup.... f**k me for a pup it must have weighed 10 stone, its nothing short of cruelty to let a dog get so overweight. :censored:

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