Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Kind of aimed directly at my Guru of the Guns, el Bald, but don't anyone be afraid to pitch in with their own opinions, please. Open debate is Good! Here's the craic then; Having brought home my NEF .22 Hornet last night, I put a round through her today. Sadly, I failed to put the same round through the damn Hoodie, but it's a fiendishly difficult shot at that nest and I was using open field sights. I could only just see the bloody bird! Anyway ..... I squeezed the trigger without hesitation and, at the KISHOWWWW I felt like a Cowboy! It was a f*ckin brilliant sound! Really sounded like a rifle, but no way was it going to wake the dead! My mates cattle were grazing peacefully, seventy five yards away. They kept grazing peacefully! Stampede? They didn't even look up! Part Two: Having got all these fearsome ideas in my head ~ having fired a heavily moderated, then Unmoderated .243, and suspecting this thing might be even half as loud (LMAO! What a Joke!) - I'd been ready to buy a 300 quid 'T'. Only, last night, Dave, my local man, said he reckoned he could save me a packet and kit me out with a SAK Moderator, for 65 E's. He said it'd be fine on my rifle and would appreciably quieten the thing down too. However, 99% of the referances I could find, on line, to SAK moddie's were with referance to it being a great little Rimmy mod. And I ran a search in here and found Baldie saying to someone: " You put a SAK on a Centrefire?! ". Mine being, of course, a Centrefire! But, I've just spoke to Dave again and he assured me that he'd tried the SAK on up to a .222 (or 3?) and all was fine. Despite the fact that he too is well aware it was designed as a Rimmy job. Now, obviously, I'm all for saving myself hundreds of pounds. I'd just like to put my mind more at rest and learn more about this new subject. So, Balds; Would ye have been going " " over a larger calibre centrefire? Or would ye simply consider it madness putting a SAK on even a 'bottom of the range' calibre like my Hornet? I mean, having re read all our earlier discussions about moderating Hornets ~ and especially now having heard the thing go off ~ I can really see where most of ye were getting at, with the opinions that ye'd really hardly bother to moderate it at all! Ye were quite right; Hardly 'scary loud', is it? Somewhere between a .410 and a 12, I'd say. Only a much nicer sound! But I'd still like to go that extra mile and put something on it. If only so that my neighbours (and Permissions) can visibly see that I've done so. I believe it'll give me a big psychological advantage. " How bloody loud can the shot ye heard last night have been? It has a bloody silencer on it! Naaah. It was just the fact of a gun shot that made ye jump " Anyone? Quote Link to post
Guest Magwitch Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) here's a link to Jacksons contact them i am sure they will help you out DS My Webpage Edited May 17, 2007 by Magwitch Quote Link to post
Yokel Matt 918 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hey bud... My .17 HMR makes a fair old crack and the SAK does take the edge off it. Haven't heard them used on a centerfire (i'd have thought more volume would be needed to be effective) but it'll certainly save you a few bob if it works. Best of luck mate and happy shooting. Quote Link to post
Guest baldie Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 A hornet will eventually blow a sak apart. They are made from aluminium, and arent made strongly enough to handle the blast. There is however good news. The guy who sells the saks, will also be able to get the ASE UTRA, as they come from the same firm, jackson rifles. The utra, is made for rimmy,s and .22 hornets, says so in the blurb, and they are made of phosphated steel too, and built like a tank. Over here, the sak is 30 quid, and the ase is £60, so you would be looking at twice as much.I have an utra, and its the quietest rimfire mod, made. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 A hornet will eventually blow a sak apart. The utra, is made for rimmy,s and .22 hornets, says so in the blurb That's enough for me then, mate! And it the ASE ends up costing me a Ton (This is Eire! ), then so what? It's still a Third of what I was prepared to pay to 'over mod' myself Site specifically states Jacksons export to here too. I'll have a word with Dave. He won't argue too much; I'll be putting my case for spending twice as much money with him! Cheers, lads! The ASE Definately have it then Quote Link to post
Yokel Matt 918 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I'd second the ASE Ultra... Used to have one on my 10/22. One word of warning... don't bother trying to clean them. They unscrew quite easily and you can see the washers all lined up. I'd been firing some copper washed high velocity rounds (with a view to upsetting a few fox's) and there was a bit of a build up of copper up in the mod. Fecking thing came appart easily enough but putting the buggers back in Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 copper washed high velocity rounds Like This? Anyway mate; Don't ever need to worry about me meddling. I have a life long and innate aversion to taking things apart! Mate of was was the exact oppossite. He'd buy a 6oo quid telescope and the first thing he'd do is take it to bits and look at it! F*ck That!!! Me? I buy it and use it. Needs anything doing to it? I take it to a qualified shop and have them sort it out! My motto: ' Noli Pissus Circumfri ' Quote Link to post
Yokel Matt 918 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Copper jacketed centerfire will leave a lot less residual crap in the barrell and you won't have a problem... if anything it will be old, claggy powder which will just come out by tapping on a table top (take the mod ob the rifle first though hey ). The .22 LR rounds are no way near as well put together and have flakey bits of copper wash shite clinging to them. Quote Link to post
conor 7 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 your dealer is screwin you with 65 euro for a sak! Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 your dealer is screwin you with 65 euro for a sak! Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 DS. the sak will last a while then one round to many and it will fall to pieces due to the pressure been forced through the baffles, check out UK custom shop enquiries@wildcatrifles.co.uk this is an e-mail address but they do a can for only the 22 hornet called the cub. it costs 85stg and i think is shorter than the sak. just another option................................ Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 your dealer is screwin you with 65 euro for a sak! Fair comment. I did notice the manufacturers site stated something around the 25 quid mark for one. I'm just not up on the accepted 'conversion rates' yet. I do know that some sellers on the bay completely take the piss with shipping rates into Eire ..... Anyway; I took my rifle back to Dave tonight. We're hoping he can get it Threaded in time for me to make the long, arduous and rather bloody expensive trip back tomorrow night, to pick it up ~ along with the ASE. I'll make some discreet enquiries of his pricing then and shall consider my options. Fact is; It'll cost me a good thirty E's to get back there Again! (Forgive me, but I just seem to be spending every night this week sitting there, in taxi's, Gagging for a f*cking smoke!) And all in order to piece meal put my dream together. Bottom line is; Swings and roundabouts. The guy's looked after me, thus far. If I f*ck him off over thirty E's on the price of the mod? How much more time, aggro and taxi fares will it cost me to fly off to some other place and 'save' that relatively modest ammount? I mean, I'm sure I could save myself 50 - 100 E's, all told, by buying my various bits and pieces off the bay? And wait weeks for the bloody stuff to arrive. And end up forking out as much on shipping as I am in taxi fares! Forgive me lads. But I'm excited. I'm eager as f*ck. I want to finally be able to get out there and get to work earning with my new tool kit. 'Fifteen quid' here and there? Buggered if I'm overly concerned about that! It's costing me a score a throw just to get there! It's all relative. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Got the ASE UTRA fitted See " Accessories " for the FULL story! Quote Link to post
digger101 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hey bud... My .17 HMR makes a fair old crack and the SAK does take the edge off it. Haven't heard them used on a centerfire (i'd have thought more volume would be needed to be effective) but it'll certainly save you a few bob if it works. Best of luck mate and happy shooting. have you tried the sirocco sm11 its quieter than the sak just takes the crack of a bit more than the sak i have both for my .17 hmr good hunting Quote Link to post
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