Fabapocalypse 35 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) We tried to go down the adoption line, with little success. We couldn't rescue because our Jack russell bitch had not been spayed, even though we were after a bitch anyhow??? O and the particular dog we wanted liked cats and because we didn't have any it was being reserved for a home that did..WTF. Totally baffled us, so sacked if off and got our pup.. Was like they didn't want to rehome em.. Because if your current bitch is unspayed that indicates that you might breed in the future; not many rescues want their dogs bred from so they're unlikely to rehome a bitch to you other than a spayed one. Rescues don't want the dog population increasing any more. And if the other dog was being reserved, someone got there before you, is all. Edited December 19, 2010 by Fabapocalypse Quote Link to post
Fabapocalypse 35 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 it just shows that theres loads of people out there that do care about there dogs,i just hope this thread will make a few people think about the choice they make when taking on a lurcher or any other dog,cheers john. what does that emply.... i fecking love my dogs... As pets and workers.. Doesnt mean we have to go out and get a rescue pal... This post is going nowhere. It should be on a normal chat forum about animals. Unless you just meant getting one for a pet. And werent talking to the working dog men. I don't think he's implying anything, other than perhaps what he's saying. Which is: there is a choice as to where you get a lurcher and how you keep or don't keep it afterwards. The thread has gone four pages... And "working dog men"? Where do you think most of the dogs in rescue come from? Oh of course, silly me, it's not the "working dog men" it's "the others". Or the Shite Dog Fairy. Quote Link to post
hargreavesheber 93 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I understand that there are too many dogs being born into this world hence us looking for a rescue as our 1st option. I told the lady that we had no intention of breeding our JRT bitch, the only reason she hadn't been spayed was because we got our Male JRT castrated instead.. I can understand her reason to some degree as i'm sure they get rescue's by the dozen. But even so i can't help feeling this may be 1 of the reasons people like ourselves go out and get a puppy. If someone had a large pack of dogs it would cost a fortune to adopt with all the vets bills from castrations and spaying. Maybe this shelter is a one off. Each to thir own. Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) you may call me sexist but have a look back at the number of women who keep banging on about these rescues.( Not all women do ) PENNY TAYLOR gave me a bit of stick for being macho when i laugthed at her saying she doesnt like to hear a terreir "mixing it" with its quary under ground!! Yes I Like hunting and as long as its done as quick as possible even the kill at the end. this is ment to be a ..... HUNTING SITE FOR HUNTING PEOPLE and thats what I am. Iv been down in the cold doing my animals waters this morning because they deserve my time for the effort they put in for me. WHY NOT GO ON A RESCUE SITE let us hunting folk get on with it. Edited December 19, 2010 by baldockbanks courser 1 Quote Link to post
Guest chook Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 you may call me sexist but have a look back at the number of women who keep banging on about these rescues.( Not all women do ) PENNY TAYLOR gave me a bit of stick for being macho when i laugthed at her saying she doesnt like to hear a terreir "mixing it" with its quary under ground!! Yes I Like hunting and as long as its done as quick as possible even the kill at the end. this is ment to be a ..... HUNTING SITE FOR HUNTING PEOPLE and thats what I am. Iv been down in the cold doing my animals waters this morning because they deserve my time for the effort they put in for me. WHY NOT GO ON A RESCUE SITE let us hunting folk get on with it. So just because we choose to support rescues, means we can not be on a hunting site or even enjoy the sport - get real, and for your info we dont bang on about rescues unless your blind this thread is about rescues and was started by a bloke. And wether your dogs put in the effort or not for you, they should still get your time and care whilst they are in your care, or do you just abandon the ones that dont put in the effort for you? And by the way - i am on some rescue sites, same as quite a few that are on this site are. 1 Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 you may call me sexist but have a look back at the number of women who keep banging on about these rescues.( Not all women do ) PENNY TAYLOR gave me a bit of stick for being macho when i laugthed at her saying she doesnt like to hear a terreir "mixing it" with its quary under ground!! Yes I Like hunting and as long as its done as quick as possible even the kill at the end. this is ment to be a ..... HUNTING SITE FOR HUNTING PEOPLE and thats what I am. Iv been down in the cold doing my animals waters this morning because they deserve my time for the effort they put in for me. WHY NOT GO ON A RESCUE SITE let us hunting folk get on with it. So just because we choose to support rescues, means we can not be on a hunting site or even enjoy the sport - get real, and for your info we dont bang on about rescues unless your blind this thread is about rescues and was started by a bloke. And wether your dogs put in the effort or not for you, they should still get your time and care whilst they are in your care, or do you just abandon the ones that dont put in the effort for you? And by the way - i am on some rescue sites, same as quite a few that are on this site are. An animal in my care will ALWAYS BE CARED FOR but what I was saying was they wont stay in my care. I only wish I wouldnt have push my rubbish on in the past. If I was a better man perhaps id shot them protecting the lurcher as a breed im ashamed Id strugle to do it to a healthy dog. Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 you may call me sexist but have a look back at the number of women who keep banging on about these rescues.( Not all women do ) PENNY TAYLOR gave me a bit of stick for being macho when i laugthed at her saying she doesnt like to hear a terreir "mixing it" with its quary under ground!! Yes I Like hunting and as long as its done as quick as possible even the kill at the end. this is ment to be a ..... HUNTING SITE FOR HUNTING PEOPLE and thats what I am. Iv been down in the cold doing my animals waters this morning because they deserve my time for the effort they put in for me. WHY NOT GO ON A RESCUE SITE let us hunting folk get on with it. So just because we choose to support rescues, means we can not be on a hunting site or even enjoy the sport - get real, and for your info we dont bang on about rescues unless your blind this thread is about rescues and was started by a bloke. And wether your dogs put in the effort or not for you, they should still get your time and care whilst they are in your care, or do you just abandon the ones that dont put in the effort for you? And by the way - i am on some rescue sites, same as quite a few that are on this site are. Hell of a lot of people brought the thl calendar and £1.200 was donated to a dog rescue from the 2 grand total collected ... last year so lads on here do care they just pretend not to Quote Link to post
Guest chook Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 you may call me sexist but have a look back at the number of women who keep banging on about these rescues.( Not all women do ) PENNY TAYLOR gave me a bit of stick for being macho when i laugthed at her saying she doesnt like to hear a terreir "mixing it" with its quary under ground!! Yes I Like hunting and as long as its done as quick as possible even the kill at the end. this is ment to be a ..... HUNTING SITE FOR HUNTING PEOPLE and thats what I am. Iv been down in the cold doing my animals waters this morning because they deserve my time for the effort they put in for me. WHY NOT GO ON A RESCUE SITE let us hunting folk get on with it. So just because we choose to support rescues, means we can not be on a hunting site or even enjoy the sport - get real, and for your info we dont bang on about rescues unless your blind this thread is about rescues and was started by a bloke. And wether your dogs put in the effort or not for you, they should still get your time and care whilst they are in your care, or do you just abandon the ones that dont put in the effort for you? And by the way - i am on some rescue sites, same as quite a few that are on this site are. An animal in my care will ALWAYS BE CARED FOR but what I was saying was they wont stay in my care. I only wish I wouldnt have push my rubbish on in the past. If I was a better man perhaps id shot them protecting the lurcher as a breed im ashamed Id strugle to do it to a healthy dog. And thats were the rescues come in - i dont mean the larger ones i mean the smaller local ones,who understands working dogs and understands the owners, if a dog comes in from a working home, they make sure that dogs go's to a home that understands a working dog, actualy with all lurchers they make sure the people who are taking on the rescue dogs understands what a lurcher is and what they are capable of doing, back up is always there. we all want to protect this "breed" - its just we dont think that a healthy dog should be pts for no good resion, were as it could make someone a fantastic pet, or we get ones coming from pet homes who would be better in a working home, and have had quite a few dogs go out to working homes. Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 nothing to do with hunting anymore. RUBISH bye bye Quote Link to post
jonansuki 21 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 the rescue by us is a waste of time she came out said my house was fine to have another dog went up to have a look seen a rough coated dog i liked told her i wanted that one she said no hes to big so i asked for the small rough coated she said she was keeping him there was a whippet pup 6month old my missus liked the women said she has just had him back because he keeps attacking the last owners cats i told her we wanted him she said no he was going back to the women as she miss him and then told me to go out and buy a puppy if i wanted another dog as she feels she diddnt have the right dog in what a joke i was walking all these dogs for a couple times a week an helping her out just felt like she wanted to keep all the dogs for herself lol Quote Link to post
Richie10 345 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 They bring in dogs from Ireland because rescues feed of the fact people think they are doing something good by 'rescuing' a dog. They then charge the new owners for the dogs. It's not a charity it's a business. Why do we have so many dogs in the rescues? It's not the working dogs it's the pets. Working dogs are a very small percentage, the staffies were the 'in' breed now it's the mongrels that they give funny names to like a puggles and labradoodles. You will see more and more of these dogs given up because of the economic downturn and the upcoming increase in VAT. Quote Link to post
robo-christ 40 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 the rescue by us is a waste of time she came out said my house was fine to have another dog went up to have a look seen a rough coated dog i liked told her i wanted that one she said no hes to big so i asked for the small rough coated she said she was keeping him there was a whippet pup 6month old my missus liked the women said she has just had him back because he keeps attacking the last owners cats i told her we wanted him she said no he was going back to the women as she miss him and then told me to go out and buy a puppy if i wanted another dog as she feels she diddnt have the right dog in what a joke i was walking all these dogs for a couple times a week an helping her out just felt like she wanted to keep all the dogs for herself lol i got kicked out of school when iwas about 14 eventually the school said that i could come in 3 days a week but had to have a work placement 2 days,they let me choose and since i liked dogs i picked a local rescue. anyway this may sound far-fetched but you are exactly right,they often DONT want to re-home dogs,i seen them turning down home after home for dogs they liked for the stupidest of reasons like the person was wearing trainers. and the few times they did get taken away i'd see these freaks crying and blubbing about the dog being so happy while it was there etc etc. How the feck anyone could support an animal charity when there are people suffering across the world is beyond me anyway,we should just cull them...and the dog's too. 1 Quote Link to post
Fabapocalypse 35 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) They bring in dogs from Ireland because rescues feed of the fact people think they are doing something good by 'rescuing' a dog. They then charge the new owners for the dogs. It's not a charity it's a business. Why do we have so many dogs in the rescues? It's not the working dogs it's the pets. Working dogs are a very small percentage, the staffies were the 'in' breed now it's the mongrels that they give funny names to like a puggles and labradoodles. You will see more and more of these dogs given up because of the economic downturn and the upcoming increase in VAT. Rescue lurchers and greyhounds come in from Ireland because it's virtually impossible to rehome them there. How often are we going to hear this myth about dog rescue being profitable, or at least a business?! Dog comes in: it's not neutered or microchipped. That's done. Can't tell if it's been vaccinated, so that's done. It'll be wormed and de-flea'ed. For that little lot, just the basics, is between £200 and £300. Then it has to be fed and housed until it's re-homed. And if it has illness or injury, as an increasing number of ex-workers do, you will be talking an awful lot more than that. And the average adoption fee is about £150. So how can you run a business if it costs you at least twice as much - and often higher multiples than that - to produce your "product" as you can "sell" it for at point of sale? I speak of course for genuine rescue organisations, not those who advertise dog rehoming "services" in the free ads. I would agree that working dogs are a small percentage of the rescue dog population as a whole but amongst lurchers they are a much higher percentage. Edited December 20, 2010 by Fabapocalypse Quote Link to post
Fabapocalypse 35 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 How the feck anyone could support an animal charity when there are people suffering across the world is beyond me anyway,we should just cull them...and the dog's too. Supporting an animal charity does not preclude supporting charities for people. There's no law against doing both. People who make this kind of comment tend not to do either. That last comment? Just offensive. Quote Link to post
Richie10 345 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 They bring in dogs from Ireland because rescues feed of the fact people think they are doing something good by 'rescuing' a dog. They then charge the new owners for the dogs. It's not a charity it's a business. Why do we have so many dogs in the rescues? It's not the working dogs it's the pets. Working dogs are a very small percentage, the staffies were the 'in' breed now it's the mongrels that they give funny names to like a puggles and labradoodles. You will see more and more of these dogs given up because of the economic downturn and the upcoming increase in VAT. Rescue lurchers and greyhounds come in from Ireland because it's virtually impossible to rehome them there. How often are we going to hear this myth about dog rescue being profitable, or at least a business?! Dog comes in: it's not neutered or microchipped. That's done. Can't tell if it's been vaccinated, so that's done. It'll be wormed and de-flea'ed. For that little lot, just the basics, is between £200 and £300. Then it has to be fed and housed until it's re-homed. And if it has illness or injury, as an increasing number of ex-workers do, you will be talking an awful lot more than that. And the average adoption fee is about £150. So how can you run a business if it costs you at least twice as much - and often higher multiples than that - to produce your "product" as you can "sell" it for at point of sale? I speak of course for genuine rescue organisations, not those who advertise dog rehoming "services" in the free ads. I would agree that working dogs are a small percentage of the rescue dog population as a whole but amongst lurchers they are a much higher percentage. It is well known that rescues get reduced costs from vets. Just look at what it costs to buy a worming tablet to the public when at cost it is pennies. Not only is there a rehoming cost there are also donations, look at how much the RSPCA gets. You cannot tell me that dog rescues run at a major loss each year, as we know that would not be sustainable. 1 Quote Link to post
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