slingshot82 32 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Lol, I dont think he has alot of experience in airguns mate. But to be honest a 12ft.lb air rifle can and will do all he is asking of. Ive seen and done it. Atb Kyle Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Surely self explanatory? all of the species mentioned would be what i need to hit. simples. Surely the ammunition would be the variable for the target species mentioned? can a rabbit stopper not be used for plinking pigeon? PS, the mitzy evo 10 FQ would meet your car specs above Regards LD13 Quote Link to post
slingshot82 32 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Surely self explanatory? all of the species mentioned would be what i need to hit. simples. Surely the ammunition would be the variable for the target species mentioned? can a rabbit stopper not be used for plinking pigeon? PS, the mitzy evo 10 FQ would meet your car specs above Regards LD13 You need to edit your post mate, Tell him an evo 8 FQ and also tell him mine is in the for sale section Lol Quote Link to post
redeye jedi 39 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Surely self explanatory? all of the species mentioned would be what i need to hit. simples. Surely the ammunition would be the variable for the target species mentioned? can a rabbit stopper not be used for plinking pigeon? PS, the mitzy evo 10 FQ would meet your car specs above Regards LD13 hi mate, the point he was trying to make is if you get a gun that will knock a bunny over at 50 yards isnt going to be suitable for shooting pigeon inside a farmers barn, stray shots and, even a flathead pellet through the chest runs the risk of going through the roof with a full power air rifle. Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Surely self explanatory? all of the species mentioned would be what i need to hit. simples. Surely the ammunition would be the variable for the target species mentioned? can a rabbit stopper not be used for plinking pigeon? PS, the mitzy evo 10 FQ would meet your car specs above Regards LD13 You need to edit your post mate, Tell him an evo 8 FQ and also tell him mine is in the for sale section Lol Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 (edited) Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Surely self explanatory? all of the species mentioned would be what i need to hit. simples. Surely the ammunition would be the variable for the target species mentioned? can a rabbit stopper not be used for plinking pigeon? PS, the mitzy evo 10 FQ would meet your car specs above Regards LD13 hi mate, the point he was trying to make is if you get a gun that will knock a bunny over at 50 yards isnt going to be suitable for shooting pigeon inside a farmers barn, stray shots and, even a flathead pellet through the chest runs the risk of going through the roof with a full power air rifle. eloquently put my man Edited April 8, 2010 by longdog13 Quote Link to post
redeye jedi 39 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mate , the words - pigeons in barns, and - rabbits at 50yds. dont equate very well in my mind . Decide what you want - rabbit at 50 yds [you need some power] pigeons in barns [you dont need any] More info on what exactly your after would be good [at the moment i think your asking for a 4x4 small family car pickup truck with the handling of a lotus and top speed of 170mph] Surely self explanatory? all of the species mentioned would be what i need to hit. simples. Surely the ammunition would be the variable for the target species mentioned? can a rabbit stopper not be used for plinking pigeon? PS, the mitzy evo 10 FQ would meet your car specs above Regards LD13 hi mate, the point he was trying to make is if you get a gun that will knock a bunny over at 50 yards isnt going to be suitable for shooting pigeon inside a farmers barn, stray shots and, even a flathead pellet through the chest runs the risk of going through the roof with a full power air rifle. eloquently put my man Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Longdog, I see that you are from Kent mate which is a bit far from North Yorkshire, but i know a gun smith there selling a mint condition Weihrauch HW80 with silencer and good scope for £200 which is a real steal buddy. Here is the info Mr Kev Burrill Tel: 01677 424447| The Old Blacksmiths, The Wynd, Bedale, North Yorkshire DL8 1EW A HW80 is a real good rifle and will do what you want buddy. Just remember that when shooting in barns you have a good backstop behind the bird before taking a shot or you will be missing some roof tiles for sure. Si Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 ok here gos. precharged pneumaptics, pros: are excellent for long range shooting because they have no recoil. this means it is far easier to achieve accuracy. it also means that you can shoot from any position without the poi (poin of impact) changing (unlike spring rifles). cons: after a certain amount of shots you need to refill your rifle with air from 1 of 3 sources: a dive shop (for about £2), a dive bottle or a speically desinged airgun pump. the first option is the easiest or the hardest depending on where you are. if a dive shop is no more than a stones throw away then its fine. but having to go in car all the way across town to get your gun filled up will be tiresome. a dive bottle (depending on size) will only need filling up after about 20 fills of your airgun. a pump is the cheapest option but it can take ages to fill up your gun with one and it gives you a workout if you've got a big cylinder on your gun. spring rifles, pros:spring rifles are powered by YOU. the action you pulling down the barrel or lever cocks the spring. this measn its ready all the time and you never un out of puff excpet after about 7 years when the spring wears down a bit when you will need to replace it. compared to pcps springers are astoundingy cheap but you need to get a good quality one from the likes of weirhauch (HW) air arms webley ect. cons: springers have recoil which means that it is harder to achieve accuracy past 30m. this also means the POI will change depeniding from which position you've sighted it in on, for example: if you zero your rifle from a table rest and then take a shot from standing the POI will be different for standing. your range with a springer (depending on how good a shot your are) will be about 35m. if your going to get a good quality springer s/h your looking at aroound £200. good springers: hw77, hw80, hw90, hw95, hw97, air arms pro sport, air arms tx200hc, webley stingray, bsa supersport. good pcps (for £200 s/h): air arms s200, air arms s400, bsa ultra, webley raider. please bear in mind that a dive bottle or pump wll cost you around £110 extra. Quote Link to post
air gunner 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I use my bsa supersport for all the vermin you are wanting to shoot. So I was in the same position as you a few years ago and had a budget such as yours point is don't bother put a little extra cash on and check the for sale section. I may be bullshitting here but you can get c02 air rifles and I'm pretty sure you can change power from 12 down to 8 on one of them? Problem is they change POI in different temperatures apparently?? I would say for such a low price get a springer learn to shoot well with it then if you really like it and it's doing an ok job up the game and get a pcp and finish the job. Try and budget £200ish if possible and when you get a gun keep it in top condidtion so you can sell it on and change to something different when you get hooked on the sport. Quote Link to post
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