No backstop

[adam1 2]

Having gained more permission I'm tempted to apply for my FAC, I have one permission that has a flood bank providing a perfect backstop, the bank is around 15 meters beyond the boundry of my permission but I am led to belive that is not any problem. The other permission is over 100 acres ( set amongst hundreds of acres on which I dont have permission) but is totally flat and open and to be totally honest I dont know how this type of land would be shot over, I realise elevation would help but thats not really practical. There are no public rights of way on the land. The main quarry would be rabbit hare and crow, I would be applying for .22Lr and 17HMR, the HMR would be for use on the open land, how do you deal with this sort of land?

[waidmann 105]

ideally the shot needs to go into the ground, as you say elevation would help.

the .17 hmr tends to break up on impact( i would not rely on it though).

 

other backstops CAN be standing corn,mais,THICK woods etc. the problem is of course being ABSOLUTLY sure that nobody/nothing is behind or in them.

 

i would knock up some highseats( whether open or closed,freestanding etc etc) either using wood or metal with a steady rifle rest. height depends on the ground and range you wish to shoot at. i have always made my own. its cheaper and you can build to suit the location.

atb

[Fidgety 8]

I'm sorry, but whilst I agree with eveything else on the post,

 

"other backstops CAN be standing corn,mais,THICK woods etc. the problem is of course being ABSOLUTLY sure that nobody/nothing is behind or in them"

 

Standing crops and thick woods are NEVER safe backstops, even if you think they are unoccupied!!

 

Get some seats up Adam.

[JonathanL 4]

Having gained more permission I'm tempted to apply for my FAC, I have one permission that has a flood bank providing a perfect backstop, the bank is around 15 meters beyond the boundry of my permission but I am led to belive that is not any problem. The other permission is over 100 acres ( set amongst hundreds of acres on which I dont have permission) but is totally flat and open and to be totally honest I dont know how this type of land would be shot over, I realise elevation would help but thats not really practical. There are no public rights of way on the land. The main quarry would be rabbit hare and crow, I would be applying for .22Lr and 17HMR, the HMR would be for use on the open land, how do you deal with this sort of land?

 

This is a big problem. It is an offence for any projectile you discharge from a firearm to leave the boundary of the land you have permission to shoot over. Be carfeful.

 

J.

[JonathanL 4]

Having gained more permission I'm tempted to apply for my FAC, I have one permission that has a flood bank providing a perfect backstop, the bank is around 15 meters beyond the boundry of my permission but I am led to belive that is not any problem. The other permission is over 100 acres ( set amongst hundreds of acres on which I dont have permission) but is totally flat and open and to be totally honest I dont know how this type of land would be shot over, I realise elevation would help but thats not really practical. There are no public rights of way on the land. The main quarry would be rabbit hare and crow, I would be applying for .22Lr and 17HMR, the HMR would be for use on the open land, how do you deal with this sort of land?

 

This is a big problem. It is an offence for any projectile you discharge from a firearm to leave the boundary of the land you have permission to shoot over. Be carfeful.

 

J.

[adam1 2]

High seats are not really an option as there is nowhere to site them on my permission,(and are they really a practical option for the odd hare?) although there is one sited in a surrounding field (and a shot fox in the hedge bottom) which leads me to believe the surrounding ground is passed for firearms (and bigger calibres than my requirements at that).

As i suspected elevation sounds to be the key, so will be shooting from sticks be enough elevation to be deemed acceptible as some parts of the land are not really drivable without a 4x4. Is there any other options other than elevation? (I suspect not!)

I do intend to contact my FEO but wanted to be clued up to a reasonable degree before doing so.

Cheers for your replys so far

[waidmann 105]

I'm sorry, but whilst I agree with eveything else on the post,

 

"other backstops CAN be standing corn,mais,THICK woods etc. the problem is of course being ABSOLUTLY sure that nobody/nothing is behind or in them"

 

Standing crops and thick woods are NEVER safe backstops, even if you think they are unoccupied!!

 

Get some seats up Adam.

 

 

hence the bold letters "can" and "absolutly".

standing corn,maize, and thick woods are more than capable of stopping a round( even from larger calibers) the question is are they safe backstops,as a rule NO they are not as you can never be" absolutly" sure..........

have you thought of freestanding seats? a third or fourth leg is easily done.

 

if no other method will allow a shot then yes for the odd hare or fox sitting up would be worth it.

Edited January 20, 2010 by waidmann

[jamie g 17]

best thing to do is ask your flo and see if the land has all ready been passed you never no.