lone hound???

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

one hound isnt going to be enough to drive foxes to ground

 

jack youre 16 you liitle tit my terrier has ran foxes to ground, do you no what they are??

 

and in reply to michael, a do like the look of the welsh ones good coat which would certainly be of benefit up here and there gameness would be handy round the holes. think the teagles are going to be a no no then as you no what brocks like he will bush out forestrys and is able to take lines for so long. what im really wanting is something that is able to keep lines on vast open moors/fells and a think a tracking collar is something else ill have to look in to, and finnaly my plan is to wind you up and tempt you in to getting one aswell

good plan.. it might just work!

[unlacedgecko 1,467]

hi jam,

 

the smooth coated bitch on the first page is mine. ive been away with work for the last 4 months, so havent done much with her since that day out with DnN. however, my girlfriend has been looking after her for me as a house dog. she has been doing well with general obedience and seems quite trainable. im hoping to get her out in a beating line for the tail end of the season and hopefully a few fox drives later in the year. how is your brock dog?

 

regards

 

Ug

[jamie2004live 163]

hi jam,

 

the smooth coated bitch on the first page is mine. ive been away with work for the last 4 months, so havent done much with her since that day out with DnN. however, my girlfriend has been looking after her for me as a house dog. she has been doing well with general obedience and seems quite trainable. im hoping to get her out in a beating line for the tail end of the season and hopefully a few fox drives later in the year. how is your brock dog?

 

regards

 

Ug

 

smart bitch, steady away with it eh? am sure youll get lots of fun with it cubbing time . would say the brock dogs seasons over really took a bad pasting to his pallet just cant see how its going to heel. but ive yot a year old bitch to keep me occupied

[kevin kiely 66]

thanks for the reply mate,it sounds spot on.that sounds like a great bitch.id prefer the span/terrier myself due to trainability and coat but as you said the hound influence would make teagles more effective at following a line.could you tell me:

-would the beagle cross be more switched on to fox(pre ban),as spaniels are bred for birds too ?

-when pushing rabbits off a ditch would a teagle give tongue and frighten rabbits further up the field?

-are teagles too noisy to be kennelled with neighbours houses either side?

-what breed of terrier would you recommended for either cross?

At the end of the day, these are just my opinions mate, based on what ive done and seen, im no expert by a long shot!! There will be people much more experienced that run cross-breds, who will give you info about the dogs they use! All the best mate!

- The spaniel that sired mine is a great fox dog for a spaniel. But the crosses are far superior to a spaniel for evicting a fox from a wood, the spaniel/terrier would hunt it right out of cover every time, and giving tongue like crazy. They work the same as the beagle blooded dogs, but like i said, will not hunt out all that far... Its all how you enter them, dont forget the terrier side of things, they are game wee feckers, they can be trained to hunt any quarry you like. Most spaniels and spaniel crosses love fox hunting if brought up for the job. My female wouldnt finish a wounded fox off, but most will easily, she prefered to bay it up! And mine were totally broken to gamebirds so i had the trust of the keepers whoose land i worked over(as well as my own shoot). Should retrieve well too!

-Teagle will give tongue on bunnies if you hunt them, and so aye it might scare some off out in the fields, but i find its the ones in cover that stay put. Lurchers soon make a good team with them, and if loose they will home in on the music and push ahead for a go at the quarry.

-Teagles usually are no worse than other dogs as long as they dont get bored. The more dogs you keep, the more likely they will break into song, but this can be nipped in the bud, if you rebuke straight away. Dont leave for long periods and keep em busy.

- Ive seen excellent russel crosses, with both spaniel and beagle. Mine were cocker spaniel/patt/russel. Id think any breed would do the job. But with hindsight, a leggier strain of terrier may be best. Coat type may help your decision? I had rough and smooth coated, but always black, with white blaze, some white toes.

heres two pups one one of their first hunts, pics from late summer, cocker/pat/russel I dont own them but im hoping to get back into the hounds or cross-breds one day.

i appreciate your answer pal,good to hear from someone with with experience of both crosses.the dog in the photo you had up actualy has a look of a small hound.