gundog lurchers

[Guest twylite]

hi all , just wondering has anyone seen a gundog x working ?. a friend of mine is going to breed a litter of labrador [drakeshead] x grew [3/4 greyhound 1/4 whippet] pups, he is breeding the x for himself and a few of his close friends. as he says the pups should [with the correct training] be good working lurchers. what do you think ?.

[Guest twylite]

cheers besty, what size did the dog make ? was he heavy boned ?

[shepp 2,285]

My friend had a alsation/labrador x greyhound it was much too big and heavy for all but fox and deer, before the ban. I never see any of his litter mates though.

He crossed it with his whippet/greyhound and i had one of the pups, she was a very fast and smart dog, very easy to train.

I think you could be taking a chance with that cross mate, could end up with someting very cloddy.

I'll attach a picture of my old bitch.

[dodger 3,607]

The line my red dog beleive it or not comes from a 1st x lab greyhound,accidental mating were a lab got into my mates run and lined one of his greyhounds this would be 20 or so years ago now and the lab is pretty much diluted these days but the lad had some great sport with the resulting pup she didn,t miss much hence why he bred from her.

I think your mate will do ok with these pups for genral allround lurcher work.

[Guest twylite]

the labrador hes using is very racy and the grew looks like a 25 inch whippet [light boned]. the pups will be trained as well as his lab but obviously used as mooching dogs.

[Guest twylite]

cheers mik, i agree theres more rubbish being bred than good stuff .but this litter will be passed onto dogmen who appreciate a good honest working lurcher rather than the slip em and see merchants.[whoops opend a can of worms there eh].

[Guest rickhunt]

wast a dog sould be hard on wild pigs mate

[dickyboy 1]

I got a pointer x grey !st cross and i love him(of course) he is heavy boned but has great feet he is quick though......give him a fair slip and he'll get rabbits no probs..........went out the last night before his operation and he had 5 rabbits from 6 slips..........

 

 

Gundog crosses i've seen are very quick learners and once you've got them working for you pick up tjings very quickly and just want to please

 

I have only done 1 week lamping with my dog but i took him out with a few other pups and 1 very well trained dog who doesn't get put on a slip, they just whistle him on............that night my dog only had a few slips but watched the others and got his first rabbit, next time i took him out i didn't have him on the slip i just said NO or get it and he acted perfectly............gundog crosses do have something to offer and he is a pleasure to own.....train it well before you go out and you'll reap the rewards

 

They are very quick learners

 

Saying all this it has taken him a week to learn to slow down before cornering and anticipating the rabbits move(which again they have an intution for) as they are quite top heavy in general and find tight corners harder!!

 

He looks like a black lab so when i'm out and get in sticky situation i can just say i'm walking the dog and no-one gives him a second look!!!

[Guest ADAM AND HIS DOGS]

what would make a labrador a better foundation for a lurcher breeding than the commmonly used breeds. also the fact that the dam is a grew rather than a whippet or greyhound does this not give the lab genes more chance to dominate. im sure they would have great nose. given the current legal climate maybe these lurchers in disguise are the way forward. you could stand a good off training them to stop on flushed quarry.

[dodger 3,607]

what would make a labrador a better foundation for a lurcher breeding than the commmonly used breeds. also the fact that the dam is a grew rather than a whippet or greyhound does this not give the lab genes more chance to dominate. im sure they would have great nose. given the current legal climate maybe these lurchers in disguise are the way forward. you could stand a good off training them to stop on flushed quarry.

Do not underestimate them but i guess its like any cross ie good and bad.

[LDR 29]

One of my dogs is used in the beaters line...... ..... flushes, dont run on ahead, only prob for him is getting into thick cover, but he stands on point and so far has never been wrong...... ...... he'll retrieve runners live and birds flapping no problem, but will ignore dead birds...... ........ lurcher work wise he's spot on too, when fully fit he often does a day beating and lamping that night..........

[dickyboy 1]

my boy took naturally to it just brings things the whole time.........saying this he not like a gundog that will just retrieve a tennis ball time and time again he gets bored but with game he'll do it over and over but so i never practice with real game..............i tune him up with little sessions of a favourite toy retrieving but a skin covered dummy is amazing he'll do it as many times as i like but i try to keep it short and sweet just incase!!!!

 

with a tennis ball i don't always take it from him sometimes i let him off again with it etc but when game is involved he knows the score come to me give it to me and get another or settle down.......he learnt it all pretty quick like your normal gundogs do!!

[Guest twylite]

cheers guys, ill keep everyone posted when the litter is born.