guns 13 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Ive got a HW77 in 22 and i was wondering if I could get a 177 barrel for it. Would the gun loose power if i fitted a 177 barrel? who would you say are the best company for tuning the 77 for smoother and more accurate shooting? any suggestions would be much appreaciated thanks guns. Quote Link to post
guns 13 Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 do any of you use 177 for rabbit if so how do you rate them against 22? Quote Link to post
Guest sniperâ„¢ Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 thats defying the point lads.....hes asking that if he fitted a .177 onto his WH77 would it loose power and who would be the better at tuning the rifle in question.... Y.I.S Sniperâ„¢ Quote Link to post
maty j 6 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 ive heard the best place for tuning is the webley venom shop but unfortuantly they closed down i beleive. but ive heard a rumour that there opening up again but dont know how true this is.... Quote Link to post
guns 13 Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 cheers for the reply lads just fancy something different as i have a r7 mk1 and a fx2000 and a sting ray in 22 and i wouldnt mind changing my hw 77 from a 22 to a 177 from nikey's photos it looks like it would be a wise choice cheers. Guns Quote Link to post
Guest tossa Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 ive heard the best place for tuning is the webley venom shop but unfortuantly they closed down i beleive. but ive heard a rumour that there opening up again but dont know how true this is.... understand its a fellow called s popewho was behind venom he has now set up again ,if you go on airgun forum you will be able to contact him Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 A calibre swap and a tune, from a decent gunsmith, won't effect power in the slightest. Quote Link to post
Guest gav d Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) a .177 pellet will have a bit more muzzle velocity than a .22 but because the .22 pellet is about twice the weight you will get more muzzle energy e.g u have a .177 gun using an 8 grain pellet with a velocity of 800 fps, it will fire at around 11.4 ft/lbs whereas if you have a .22 gun using a 15 grain pellet firing at a velocity of just 585 fps it will also fire at 11.4 ft/lbs, do you see what i mean? hope this has helped you :11: Edited July 11, 2006 by gav d Quote Link to post
lord verminator 75 Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 imo it does not matter if its a 22 or a 177 its what ever your comftable shooting.i shoot a logan solo 22 and i have bunnys at 50 yards regular but i carnt shoot a 177 to save my life.so if i was you,if you no somone whos got a 177 ask if you can have an outing with it and see what you think.you mite like it you mite hate it. im not saying 177 are crap its just i carnt shoot them. cheers lads.happy hunting Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 If you do a proper conversion for the rifle and it isn't being FAC'd it will be around the 12ft/lbs mark. The power will be the same regardless of calibre. Quote Link to post
Guest gav d Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 If you do a proper conversion for the rifle and it isn't being FAC'd it will be around the 12ft/lbs mark. The power will be the same regardless of calibre. so your saying that if i had a .22 caliber gun firing at bout 580 feet per second that when i change to .177 this velocity will stay the same, dusnt make sense really because then the muzzle energy would be much lower, the power obviously will change because the velocity will become greater with the smaller pellet which is why you still get the same muzzle energy even though the pellet is half the weight. depends what your shooting really, bigger calibers tend to be for bigger game, whats wrong with just keeping it as a .22 ??? Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 No. I'm saying that the legal power of a stock HW77 is around 12ft/lbs regardless of the calibre. A barrel swap will make the rifle over powered unless it's on an FAC. Ive got a HW77 in 22 and i was wondering if I could get a 177 barrel for it. Would the gun loose power if i fitted a 177 barrel? who would you say are the best company for tuning the 77 for smoother and more accurate shooting? any suggestions would be much appreaciated thanks guns. I said in the original reply that if the job is done by a decent gunsmith the rifle will be sorted so that the power is the same as a stock HW77. I've said nothing about the muzzle velocity. Quote Link to post
Guest gav d Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 No. I'm saying that the legal power of a stock HW77 is around 12ft/lbs regardless of the calibre. A barrel swap will make the rifle over powered unless it's on an FAC. Ive got a HW77 in 22 and i was wondering if I could get a 177 barrel for it. Would the gun loose power if i fitted a 177 barrel? who would you say are the best company for tuning the 77 for smoother and more accurate shooting? any suggestions would be much appreaciated thanks guns. I said in the original reply that if the job is done by a decent gunsmith the rifle will be sorted so that the power is the same as a stock HW77. I've said nothing about the muzzle velocity. im no having a go or anything mate i was just being inquizative myself, sorry to sound like i am picking points Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 im no having a go or anything mate i was just being inquizative myself, sorry to sound like i am picking points No worries Gav. If you did a straight barrel swap then the rifle would be overpowered. Quote Link to post
Guest gav d Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 im no having a go or anything mate i was just being inquizative myself, sorry to sound like i am picking points No worries Gav. If you did a straight barrel swap then the rifle would be overpowered. if you change a rifle barrel from a .22 to a .177 wil it just swap easily, will it be the same size but with a different caliber, e.g so you could put the same silencer back on the new barrel? Quote Link to post
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