ive still got these two in my kennels,one is the young dog that was on a week or two ago,the other is a 3yr old doin the biss, they are goin in the countrymans next week as some of you will know they arnt mine they belong to a pal but hes away!!! only people that are serious pm me the tossers that have wasted my time dont bother they are both 5/8 3/8 dogs one has seen nothing the other has im in n,yorks