Sorry. No they are not sir. You say you have shot with two different HW80s? I get the impression you did not own these rifles but simply had a shot or two with them?
I've owned several HW80s over the years since they first came out; including my current FAC .22 HW80 (21.4 Ft/lbs) and an HW80K .22 also on my FAC and they have never been less than beautiful to shoot with, at either end of the power spectrum. Their accuracy and consistent performance at all power levels is amazing. But I'm a spring rifle man and as such, I know a bit about shooting with these. I'm planning on another HW80 stan