your right brazer me old pal, it's a combination of the two, luck of picking the right pup at 8 weeks old and putting the time into it aswell which sometimes can be hard when you've got a full time job and a family
feck me fen u sound old now lol i remember u and jamie saying to me family wont affect me ill still go out. u got 1 kid about 1 week old and jamie got a one on the way and u both been out less than peter sutcliffe this year .. its alot better bringing pups on i only ever bought one dog a pure saluki cos i felt sorryfor it.it was a nightmare chased it about fen for 4 hrs chasi