thank`s for quick replies,yes they did want insurance so took some out today with C3,quite cheap.Used to go ferreting and ratting all the time before i got married and had kids,never had to do all of this before and had loads of farms to work,shame i moved done loads of driving in the last week trying to get permission,so hopefully this one will be good,aproached them at first about ratting but they said not many rats but loads of rabbits,but i`m sure there`s loads there fingers crossed