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1 hour ago, Netmaker said:
As already said WHWT on here has Plummers that have stayed until dug to even his old westie has been dug to a few times but he puts the work in to his dogs
Not doubting for a moment some are dug or that some are healthy but as a type no doubt heading for KC reg with all its clubs and registration the vast majority are bred down from stock riddled with quite major physical faults although working them and then culling will sort out some of the wheat from the chaff? WHWT stuff are the ones I've always thought of as a tidy type and as for westie being dug I also took one digging for a friend 20 years ago it was ok but I've also dug to cocker and Springer spaniel foxhounds of all types , collies and lurchers my observation and point of view are not aimed at anyone but let's just say there are those who would drag a bag full of bones around a show ring as long as there ego gets a stroke
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1 minute ago, dillydog said:
One is Glyn, the others just a pup yet, his hearts in the right place though
I hope he makes the grade for you, the stuff you are breeding now look a more even bunch compared to the blood you started with
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2 minutes ago, dillydog said:
Dogs not a bad stamp, very similar to the older dog in the yard bred out of his granddam by the same sire
A Lovely pair of workers
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11 hours ago, eastcoast said:
What defines a terrier as type or breed? Colour alone? I think this was something that Mr D B Plummer was very clever with in his plans. To be a Plummer terrier it must have the distinctive and almost unique markings? Something cannot be "almost" unique, it is or it is not.
Only one thing defines a terrier for me and that's working under the sod until dug then it is my preference on colour and type, I've got to be honest as far as Plummer go they are a nice type to look at , the crosses I saw were not working terriers as defined, without all his books they'd of died out or just become a Russell type , but look at likes of his book omega stating they were already badly inbred then and were full of physical faults, something even as a young man I found odd who the hell breeds unfit stock!! Another reason to stop reading his dribble, the faults still with the type 30 years later something those who have come after are struggling with breeding for coat pattern not health
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During the mid 80's to early 90's there were loads of Nuttall x plummer doing the rounds alot just looked like black , red or black & tan smooth patts with lots of white on the chest and legs not sure how much influence they had on patts or plummer breeding but its was quite a fad for a while
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22 minutes ago, tinytiger said:
The vast majority of dogs in continental Europe must be carrying some of your breeding via Tom/Grom.
yes it does seem that way at least some are getting worked , I sold 3 pups to R.Schwab back in 2000 and they've had a huge impact, but so has R.Cloots Nuttall bred terriers
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54 minutes ago, Blaise said:
I have always had patterdales. I have never owned a fox terrier. Friends have it. Sadly, all of my Jack Russells have died in the past two years. Little Betty was definitely the best.
Betty 2012
Badger 2009
always a great shame when the workers pass on , greatly enjoy your post so please keep posting
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1 hour ago, Blaise said:
The three youngest dogs, two brothers and a sister, 18 months now. They made the biggest part of our badger season.
Picolo
Prunelle
Paimpont
may I ask why the change over to the patterdales ?
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4 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:
Nice dog Glyn, they almost have their own look them ones you keep now.
cheers i suppose they do , but I still get tiny nuttall types in litters
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48 minutes ago, neil b said:
You keep a very nice type of terrier matey
thank you
he's a pretty boy a out and out bayer until your just about to uncover him then he head holds
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another handy one for the young dog
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2 hours ago, Salford black dog said:
Looking good there glyn
cheers he's going well like a clock until just before daylight then he holds
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couple of handy digs to the young dog yesterday
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I don't encourage any of my terriers to go for rats after having to move tons of bales for a terrier digging for rat , as far as the video I wouldn't at that age even a nip that young and the dog could go backwards for ever...I'm usually stock breaking at that age and know how a little fear at that age stops them worrying stock for life
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32 minutes ago, Bolero said:
Or Maybe I’m not an absolute moron and i have the ability general knowledge to know that working terriers to ground and matching dogs and which would require a more game individual. Plus the fact only one of the two dogs has been bred for the very specific traits to a much higher degree than other. It ain’t rocket science buddy. If that sort of of thing is to had on your old noggin that’s not my fault
there were Bulldog and there were terriers and then there were bull and terriers then bull terriers from many different areas and then some hundred years later there were apbt, I think you may find working terriers and gameness predates the pit dog
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2 minutes ago, Greb147 said:
That's what I've always been told.
I'm not trying to play a game of trumps but just repeating what's well known.
I'm not a breeder and never really have been so you will know even more rumours about the carry on's regarding bull blood but it's clear it has been used and still probably is.
Just look at some of the Irish dogs and many over here, they scream out bull IMO.
without a doubt I should think all working terriers carry a drop even if it's a long way back , I like the look but I'm not a fan of dogs that want to fight be it above or below I love a voice on a terrier but also knowing if that's not enough while working when push comes to shove they can for that moment push back , and as things settle go back to using there voice and it's that sense a lot of bull breed dogs lack once they go up in the gears they cant go back down resulting in a wreak
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14 minutes ago, Greb147 said:
Hopefully because there's a big enough gene pool to dip in to?
Take Nuttall, apparently his story changes as the wind blows when asked if he added bull blood. I'm sure if it was added most wouldn't mention it.
I spoke to Brian many times on the subject and no secret to the fact he did in the 50/60 his dog carried a lot of British pit blood x fells from his grandfathers stock these mated on to his border bitch and then line bred, he also used a half cross in the late 70's but wasnt happy with the pups so never carried it on but others did , and then a couple of litters late 90s early 00's to a apbt again not folded back in by himself but used by others
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21 minutes ago, bull mcabe said:
I think it's one of glyns
a new marketing ploy maybe ? Only fooling glyn couldn't help myself
nothing to do with me
it' is without doubt one of pickaxe's
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On 22/11/2020 at 23:55, WILF said:
Absolute head job !
Bred by Downsouth out of Chaz to his bitch I believehis Full sister a excellent worker as good as you could ask for but couldnt produce anything of worth , her last pup in the photo has just been past on to hunt she is happy there
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both first season
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The plummer terrier
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Very similar to the types I saw decades ago glad it made the grade for you