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I thought Mark Hankinson may have given it away or had he moved on ?
I think Tim took over at the United for a while afterwards,
i still regret setting Jim up with some terriers but there again if i hadn't there would be no film footage of me with hair
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I was on part of that film, the black dog having a collar fitted was Matt a very good working dog, the dog that bolts the fox was Ben died young poison in a drain, Ben was on the secound dig but killed his fox in so the film was heavily edited, i think it was filmed in 1997-8 we where out with the United the good old days myself , Tim Wood and the bellend Jim
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8 minutes ago, downsouth said:
Wouldnt have mattered to boothy coz hed still have made everything out to be his own.And Brian could be the worst one for giving you a different version of a breeding each time you asked him and even making pedigrees up for dogs.I even made the mistake of telling him I started off with Gould dogs once and spent the next hour listening to him rant on about how he bred Smithy
In all the years i knew Brian that was around about 40 years , not once did he claim to of bred Smithy, he always claimed the dog was half his breeding and it was Colin Didriksen who bred the dog,selling him to Ray Smith of dagenham who then sold him to Ken Gould
No point slagging Brian off now he's passed away
Like i said do your research less chance of f***ing up with steatments such as ''they had no bull or russell in them'' as the kids say these days ''own it'' and stop dragging others in to cover up your mistake
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When i asked Derek he comfimed what i posted here and some years ago i must add and Brian used to have a A4 note pad with all his breedings written down, i had pleasure of a few brews with him and he'd pass it over for me to read these went from his breedings of the 1950's right up until 2005 at that time maybe i was just lucky .... does it really matter of course it does, research and more research before people post is probably the anwsers certainly would stop false information been passed on as first hand knowledge would of saved rob a dog and few other paper hangers some embarrassment
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22 hours ago, tinytiger said:
What was the real background of them D.S? Was it a bull Russel bitch bred to poker or a son off poker?
In Colin Didriksen book he says Bella ( dam of Foxy and Dilly) was by Poker out of Susie in the chapter before be gives Susie's breeding as bull/ russell she down from fighting line and a bitch called Rosie a pitdog
below Susie's breeding, Bella's breeding and Foxy and Dilly
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7 hours ago, ROM1 said:
You will be right Glyn I only knew the Tan dog. What was behind him was told to me by bullshitter. 2 of my mates had pups out of gin, and they were given different peds. 1 stated that they were sired by Rice's Bullet another was sired by a son out of Foxy cross Dilly, a mating that apparently never happened
Glyn I was called by Brian and asked to sign a statement about all the lies bullshitter told at the time. He told me kevin and DW were righting letters to back Brian up. I think they were put on a website called Rookies or something like that, but I didn't want to be involved with puppy pedlars and didn't even own a computer at the time
ROM1, Brian came to see me with all the letters to post on the internet , i was pretty shit on computers at the time so after a chat with the owner of Roady's terrier site she typed them all and put them up and i just watched the mayhem unfold both in ireland and USA i got death threats from both country's seems gullible fools don't like people to know they got conned lol , some of the biggest defenders of rob a dog have now moved on to the AC bloodlines
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23 hours ago, ROM1 said:
Glyn I was told Duncans son owned the mother of Tan and he didn't know the breeding, and thought she was 1/2 border, and that bullshitter talked him in to using 1 of Bryan's dogs. Just shows you if you don't breed it yourself believe nothing
ROM1 , Brian definitely bred Tan i think you could be getting mixed up with the dog Rocky John Lawton bred , i'll post some the letters that where written 22 years ago
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On 23/03/2023 at 11:05, ROM1 said:
Dogs bred for type,
I dont know much about a true DW bred dog bred by the man himself so cant comment. The only one ive seen was SE Rock, a little dog with pricked ears and a curly pig tail. Anyone who knew Rock will tell you he wouldn't line a bitch, and produced very few offspring. Yet I have seen peds of lots of dogs with him in their breeding. I remember bullshitter trying to line the Gin bitch( a spewer) with Rock, and he wouldn't line her. Bullshitter tried to even pop the dog on and only ever got a slip couple of seconds. This apparently resulted in the Tonic/Jack litter according to the peds, but the lads know that the sire of Tonic was a son of Buzz, a choc dog from Ayrshire that was purchased from Nuttal, and had no wheeler blood. This son on return home was put to Gin his dame as Rock wouldn't line the bitch. I have seen Buzz on peds as Bullshitters Tan a completely different dog, and era, another lie. I remember a dig on an earth that was never dug before, a testing place. There was Jack, Snapper and 2 other smooth bully headed red dogs called wheeler dogs, all tried and failled. A young broken coated black dog was dropped and dug putting in a good performance. This dog was called Post I believe he ended up in Norfolk after being purchased by Joe Hefferman. Incedently Post sire could be traced back to Bullshitter original Tan. Tan was bred by DL and was 1/2 border/nuttal and was away back on Post sire side, a dog called Jake that was used on bitchs belonging to N S. As stated dogs bred for type, and labelled wheeler but have nothing to do with the man. The dogs that failed that day went on to produce many litters, and the dog that put the game on the bank was sold as he didn't fit the type.
Sorry a bit of track.
The original Tan a choc dog brought by rob a dog and his cousin was mother son breeding Nuttalls Sonny x Penny, Tan was mated to a border that mating produced the dam of Nuttall Rocky
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30 minutes ago, Evil knievil said:
Both myself and my buddy used it and got mixed results across several litters... It by no means guarantees a healthy litter. On the whole I'd agree it's worth a try just don't get your hopes up...
I've never had to use it but a mate of mine used it with his lab who failed to rear two litters he used this got a healthy litter of 7 pups , but there again labs are not as tightly bred as most working terriers, so maybe in/line breeding coupled with herps is the deciding factor
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22 minutes ago, dillydog said:
No Glyn, didn't even know there was such a test, I'll be sure to ask
If it is herpes ask your vet about Eurican Herpes 205 Vaccine its given to the bitch during pregnancy she then produces antibodies which passes to the pups via the placenta which then keeps them safe during their first month after which their own antibodies kick in
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12 hours ago, dillydog said:
Not a clue, never had it before and never want to see it again. Read loads of information on the Internet, everything from canine herpes to cold pups in the first four days, long story short, I don't think they know either.
I bred a good bitch in the hopes of getting another bitch pup and she had one dog, I gave him to a mate, I'm determined to keep a yard of bitches and no dogs.
I bred this bitch in the hope of getting my bitch and again got nothing but a dog......life's a bitch.
God in his infinite wisdom is determined to keep a dog in my yard, who am I to go against him.
Have you had your terriers tested for canine herps one of the most common causes of fading pups, (but not the only one)
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1 hour ago, neil b said:
Absolute crackers glyn
Thank you
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3 hours ago, Bakerboy said:
1 on the right could be a clone of the 2 I had from Karl
More less the same blood yours where double bred on Chaz, mine has a few more lines back to Chaz thats all
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The only person working within the law was the terrierman right up until the huntsman interferes and breaks the law , filmed by i beleave is the whip , but lets blame the terrierman .. scapegoat comes to mind
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On 04/02/2023 at 03:20, Barrie said:
Hi Glyn, I hope you’re keeping well and my apologies for not providing you with an update much sooner, but as you can imagine it’s been a busy time.
The final stage of debate (Stage 3) of the "Hunting With Dogs (Scotland) Bill" was concluded on 24th January and the Bill (with amendments) was passed with an overwhelming majority. It will now become Law around April/May of this year.
On the plus side and purely from a terrier work viewpoint, it was encouraging to see the Bill being passed with a number of amendments which brought it more in line with the NWTF Code of Conduct and which had been previously been rejected at Stage 2. But most important of all, despite attempts by the Labour Party supported by the Green Party to bring in an outright ban on terrier work, IT WILL STILL BE LEGAL TO USE TERRIERS BELOW GROUND TO CONTROL FOXES IN SCOTLAND.
On the downside, by including rabbits within the scope of the Bill (they were previously excluded) it has created some ridiculous anomalies and a number of additional restrictions. For example, it will no longer be legal to use terriers to control mink or rabbits below ground, or to use dogs to chase and catch them. It will also have an impact on rough shooting where more than 2 dogs are involved. It’s an illogical situation the only winners will be the very same mink which the Scottish Government seek and actually pay people to eradicate. The real losers will be our native wildlife which they claim to be trying to protect and this need not have been the case.
Nevertheless, it’s still a significant victory, particularly considering how badly things could have gone and the impact the Bill will have on other forms of hunting with dogs. Once again terrier work has come out of this piece of legislation far less impacted than any other form of hunting with dogs. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to Rachael Hamilton (Conservative MSP) and her colleagues who took forward all the NWTF’s suggested amendments and argued our case so forcefully.
A video of the full debate can be viewed at.....
https://www.parliament.scot/bills-and-laws/bills/hunting-with-dogs-scotland-bill/stage-3#topOfNav
Or alternatively for those not wishing to sit through a 6 hour debate, a written transcript can be found at.......
The amended Bill itself can also be found by clicking on the link below and the main terrierwork section by clicking on “Section 5. Exception: management of foxes and mink below ground” in the document itself…..
The entire process has stretched over more than a 7 year period and the NWTF has been involved throughout. It has provided briefing notes for MSPs, and written and oral evidence as appropriate throughout each of the various stages. Including the evidence session below….
I hope this is of some help.
Kindest Regards - Barrie
Hi Barrie, i'm good thank you and hope you and yours are aswell, thank you for your excellent reply and thank you NWTF’s for once again putting the science and facts in front of those who would have legitimate humane pest control restricted or banned due to Prejudice from a emotional anthropomorphic perspective, once again the working terrier world saved by The hard work of NWTF thank you
Regards Glyn
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40 minutes ago, Jackmo said:
Seems the lurcher game is as good as gone , terrier work looks ok for now .
Thank you , Lets hope the rabbit hunting bites them in the ass
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Been checking the news no the licencing can't find any mention on terrierwork and rabbit hunting anyone know the out come ?
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I got into terrier work in the late 70's its been doom and gloom since, and there have always been knobheads in the game,i remember when people could first afford camcorders some right pricks filming stuff that has no place in the hunting field, these days its no different, this programme could of been far worst, with what people post on facebook and tik tock
Terrier work is legal and when carried out responsible is the only humane way of controling a fox problem under ground
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11 hours ago, turkish said:
That's cracking dog
Thank you
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Yes a long way back on the sire side