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3 minutes ago, breay80 said:
We are looking to reinvigorate the club more members and stronger in numbers
The history of the fmwtc needs no fecking reinvigouration,its numbers where once honourable,honest and reliable.a few at the helm of the fmwtc now would not recognise a working terrier or its owner,fact.The rest do a fecking marvellous job and if you put a terrier to ground you should join,its stupidity not to join with the benefits,especially financial,at hand.
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Or buy a second class postage stamp and in 5 seconds write on the back of it everything you know about working terriers or bedlingtons.
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On 04/02/2022 at 14:22, Jooles said:
We've got a new Lurcher Pup Saluki X Greyhound and are keen to put her on a longlead (slip) to help with her recall. She's now 7 months and whilst her foundation is reasonable her recall is very hit & miss. We're hoping to improve this but are worried that this type of lead can be harmful to them? Alot of sites say that any Lurcher should be on a harness? We are not planning to have the lead super long, just enough to allow us to do some controlled recalls.
We already use a standard slip lead for her general walks so she is used to the motion.
Any help appreciated.
sight hounds where once owned by owners with the nous to let them off a leash,that sort of nous is possibly lost now on the owners of expensive trinkets.
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2 minutes ago, breay80 said:
We have a new championship in 2022.
We have a bar and home cooked food on Saturday.
camping on Friday and Saturday
Stalls are welcome with a donation and prize for the raffle.
Great trophies and prizes
anything to do with the fmwtc wants a big crowd,i know it as its problems now but the few that need its assistance,as and when,get fecking value for a pittance.
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On 23/11/2021 at 15:54, Nickms said:
He doesn't seem to be on here anymore mate?
Ive better things to do at times,the best advice I can offer with the vast majority wanting a beddy is source something else as the vast majority of folk selling bedlingtons sell shite,utter,utter shite and they hunt accordingly.If you want a Beddy to graft then grow a thick fecking skin,toss the ego in the bin,become a tad more honest than the majority and do your homework.Genuine bedlingtons,like their owners,are thin on the ground and the company they keep is as scarce as the progeny,or should be.I put up a bitch to breed from and the working owner of the sire could have all the pups bar 1,not one took up the offer.genuine bedlingtons are as scarce as genuine owners and a few on here know what a proper un is capable of,their silence pisses me off .
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On 04/10/2021 at 18:19, Busher100 said:
Don’t talk out your ass a fast bull x will do all that with with the plus side of it’ll go down the beam to anything unlike them collie deerhoundys who pretend can’t see anything more than a rabbit
How is it then that decent lurcher owners want collie.deerhound and whippet in the mix,and none of them want the smell of bullshit in the pedigree.I know of a few that want a deerhoundy /collie in the mix to rescue what the bull lacks,pace,nous and minerals,because the vast majority of bull bred lurchers and the owners lack all 3
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10 hours ago, robbo said:
Just setting off on a lovely 6 hour drive to visit my new granddaughter for a few days.
Just hope they’ve got some diesel up there for me to get back.
Id walk back mucker,the best thing ever to happen to me is the granddaughter,she goes everywhere and does everything with me,she as her own dog,wellies,fishing rod etc,etc.Best of wishes for your future time together.
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On 02/10/2021 at 11:50, Busher100 said:
If you only have space to kennel the one dog a well bred fast type bull x will do most things
If you want a decent ratching about lurcher,a bit of ferreting,lamping ,general mooching about and doing what a proper lurcher was intended for then the last thing on the pedigree would be bull infusion,over bred,over priced,over exaggerated and over indulged by nuggets.The decent bred,owned and worked uns have little in common with rodent hunting,feather plucking, lurcher owners.
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1 hour ago, Elchapo said:
Plenty of people would belive that he's only seen 2 good ones in 40 years lol probably only ever see 2 good beddys in full life time
Ive been more fortunate.Ive seen terriers of many breeds and styles working,ive witnessed very good russels,lakey,s,black terriers and many a mongrel.Ive been the owner of many and been in the company of folk that had better,ive never been kennel blind and have had many an happy hour with like minded souls and their terrier type,we all have a type we adhere to don,t we?.In my 40 plus years ive appreciated all of what ive seen and wished id been the owner of a few and in all that time ive drifted towards the beddy.It may never have been the best ive seen yet it remains the best ive wanted to breed,work and own.Its the most versatile of any terrier ive ever seen work,its given me more working pleasure than most others.Id always have a lakey in the kennel until fairly recently and replacing a decent un is so fecking difficult now.The Bedlington I find easier to own because I put the yards in and have access to the minority of decent uns and their owners.If I had my time again id have put the time into the beddy far earlier and still owned at least one Lakey.
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15 minutes ago, eastcoast said:
I think that is closer to Einstein's quote, but it is still just one man's opinion. And was he not a scientist rather than a philosopher or sociologist? How much did he know about people? I think he was right, and pointed out something blatantly obvious. People do tend to repeat the same mistakes, we all do it. We expect our dogs not to do it. They tend to be better at learning this than we are.
Einstein was not a dog owner,if he was he would have been far smarter?.
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Just now, Black neck said:
It was Oliver ried said that
I am spartacus
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On 02/08/2021 at 19:13, mushroom said:
Does it matter? I find this conversation daft. It's been debated for years and years and the simple consensus (that everyone agrees on) is dogs are Lupids, so the same family branch as wolves. Which species they came from will never be answered. Imo (and it means sweet fa because I'm not a paleolithic veterinary expert) is probably all species of wolf have given rise to dog breeds and then the descendents have interbred over the millennia to get where we are. Same as humans
I believe it was Einstein that stated that if you keep asking the same question and seek different answers you are then insane.
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On 12/08/2021 at 17:26, Mooseontheloose said:
Hello I do apologise for my lack of knowledge but what is the law regarding using lurchers to catch live pheasants, ducks etc thank you
Your lack of knowledge may not be as lacking as you would wish some to believe as you mention "live pheasants".Some lurcher owners knew the advantage of owning a mutt proficient at filling the pot and wallet,the wallet and pot are unconcerned with what fills them,the lurcher never gave a toot and many an owner hunted with a brazen manner.Id find the hunting level that you are at comfort with and hunt accordingly,if you have a problem with the consequence of your actions seek a lesser consequence.A roasted fowl or pheasant is far more tender and tastier with the time you put into the catcher,guns are far more mundane.
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On 19/07/2021 at 18:34, scotsmac1 said:
I want get dog as my companion. I live in small rural village in SW Scotland, and my hobby is fly fishing for salmon, and generally getting out each day.
Im looking not to big, and easy management. I was brought up with my fathers gun dogs, but personally this will be my first dog. So something on the easy side.
My prefrence, is the long wire haired, silver grey Bedlington Whippet, or the lurcher. I prefer the Bed Whippet simply as I believe it's slightly smaller.
Can anyone advise me, if Im making correct decision, in choosing the Whippet cross ?
And any advice on good dealer where Im likely find a long wire haired, silver grey Bed Whip ?
And what sort money should I be paying ?
Thanks.
Id source a Beddy/Grey hybrid as they offer a tad more,as you are in Scotland you are in an area that still holds a few decent lurchers of this type.Take your time,do your homework and be willing to hold your wallet at bay.
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Me and a mucker ran hares into a rock face time after time,above Oxenhope,after a couple of outings on the third we took along a ferret,hare staggered out with popped eyes and a ferret followed,the ferret was known as cyclops after that as he lost an eye.On ground above Braithwaite an hare was known to seek sanctuary in a dry stone wall,i ran it a few times and gave it grace as I liked its nous,a lad with a shit dog pulled it out of the wall and threw it to his useless cur.Another above oakworth used a land drain to evade a more useful mutt,a dog I owned caught it by the arse as it made the drain and came away with its tail,i ran it a few times after and knew it by its lack of scutt,happy days mostly.
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7 minutes ago, morton said:
Who is selling?.
What Beddy owner on here as offered a bitch,a grafting bitch as well,as a brood to a working stud,GRATIS?.Who as wanted to use her?.This bitch will go through season after season on here and not one single working Bedlington owner,hysterical laughter,will want to use her because their fecking grafters are not as grafting as their puppy prices equate to.The genuine beddy owners that breed for zilch know of her and have used some of her lineage,Gratis,the breeders of expensive working? beddy litters have little use for such a bitch."What is the point of breeding supposedly best working bedlingtons"when the majority of folk seek dollar before graft?.The bitch had 4 pups,a few years ago id have kept every single one of them,now 3 will enter pet homes and my lad is keeping the only bitch,the dogs from that litter should never see a pet home,nor should the bitch.
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On 24/05/2021 at 17:14, socks said:
What the fukc is the point of breeding the supposedly best working bedlington in the country to sell all the pups to pet homes .......
Who is selling?.
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22 minutes ago, fenman1# said:
Majority? The circle of 5 you mean.. And don't talk absalute shit with your gifted to pets and id rather be a nugget then an absalute f***ing idiot who says one thing and goes back to something that's the same thing as the last bollox you was saying.. We get it you got super duper bedlingtons and you only give them as pets for free
do you think we all come down in the last rainfall or what
Do your own thing pal,folk have a tendency to walk their own path,you talk louder than you walk.
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On 08/04/2021 at 18:55, morton said:
The best Bedlington ive ever seen working is now in pup,pet owners are more interested than working homes.
I'm a semi keen angler and when I often post I leave a little on the line to tempt a bite or 5 out of the nuggets on here,the nuggets bite the hardest?,just like the maggots they are.The bitch is puffing and panting 2 days earlier than she is due,bigger litter methinks and not one of them will end up with a nugget on here.
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10 minutes ago, fenman1# said:
You need to go have a chat with Rudeboy I think the two of ye would make great friends.. Your back talking about decent working homes but your the same person told us your son wouldn't sell to anyone on a this hunting site so you sold as pets? So tell me when you sold your pups did you ask say 500 or near the 2k mark? Anyone that don't sell to working homes and just pet homes is in it for the dollar and I don't care what anyone says. There's enough dogs in the pound for pets.. And for anyone else Im not even against anyone making money off dogs if that's what feeds there family and puts cloths on there back and roof over there head fair play we do anything to keep are family above water.. But you just talk some shit. Sorry if I offended anyone else.. Just had to reply
Never ever mentioned sold,again you are another that reads more in a post to suit,gifted as pets mush,because pet homes will look after the pups better.It was once the case that working homes where the best possible homes for dogs and that was a fact,they where fed better,exercised better and lived in an environment more educated to a dogs needs.The fact of life now for any dog is the fact that working homes now are far,far less knowledgeable than they where a decade or 2 ago.If you want the best for a pup now you would not look for a working owner?,my lad wants the best for anything bred from a bitch he holds in very high regard,possibly why he would never ever want one of them to end up with the majority on here,the minority of genuine folk on here already own one.
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On 09/05/2021 at 21:09, chrisbullx said:
It’s bonkers how these beddy men don’t want the breed to die but not willing for others to help them keeping them going it baffles me like
Its more bonkers when folk want them to breed for dollar,its far more bonkers when folk want to own a ready made terrier straight away without putting any effort in and its far more bonkers when a bitch is offered free,the litter offered to the owner of the stud and no working Beddy owner,apart from the few,want to know.I could breed 2 litters this season and would not find decent working homes for the majority of them,id find many an home wanking over the price of future litters,id find many an home that could not differentiate betwixt work and walt Disney.The thing that never baffles me when working lurchers and terriers are mentioned is the fecking chancers on the make.
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On 10/05/2021 at 21:07, Elchapo said:
Finding a 100% digging beddy wich isn't more than 3/4 other terrier is not going happen they ain't around and the lads who say there are are kidding them self's
You find me a digging terrier of any sort?,type?description?etc.etc. that is not mongrelised,does not carry mongrel blood,does not carry an unknown lineage?.Bedlingtons have never been a pure bred terrier,the fecking wankers in the KC attempted to make them pure and far more dishonest,especially as grafters.Working terriers of any breed specific type are more working honest when they are mongrels.
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13 minutes ago, fenman1# said:
Well if where the last folk your son would consider selling a pup too, what the f**k you posting on here for?
In my eyes you should be f****d off the site... Seen as where the last people would be able to buy your dogs
I rest my case
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On 08/05/2021 at 09:07, fenman1# said:
Don't understand how someone can complain that it's only pet homes wanting he's dogs and when we say we will buy one and run it on as a working dog and then they don't even reply to a message, I think half the lads that keep bedlington lose there arse hole when you tell them you wanna try it to ground.. I wouldn't mind trying to source out some of that Swansea Jack stuff from what I remember he done a bit of digging with them
People are to keen to buy,i understand that at times its the only way for many to get their first step upon the ladder,ive been in that same situation and was frustrated with the total utter dross on offer.I was not complaining about putting decent bedlingtons into pet homes,i was stating a fact of life now that those homes are the best for the pups.I could count on an emu,s toes the decent homes ive found for earlier working bred pups.As ive earlier stated the litter is my lads and the last folk he,d consider for a pup would be off an hunting forum,i don,t need to explain why?.Again ive a bitch that I will offer up to anybody with a genuine working Beddy,they can throw the bitch in an occupied hole and get the shovel out,id want nothing less from the stud,earlier I stated they could have all the litter,ill put an honest 7 weeks into their early development and they can have all the pups back,bar 1 now.All these folk you hear about with honest Bedlingtons should be beating my door down with an offer like that,a couple I know will not be interested for genuine reasons,many others "lose there arse hole"because they shout loudest on a keyboard.
The Working Bedlington Terrier - Who Works Them?
in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
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chasing a few 7 ounce rodents is no fecking test of a terrier,a pup under 6 months of age perhaps,most beddy owners work adults as a pup and they never work above what the average pup can ascertain.the vast majority of beddy breeders and owners are puppy workers and peddlars of overpriced dross.ill gift a decent bred pup to an owner that is willing to get the mutt out and see beyond a fecking kc turd.07887674657