well i was'nt going to bother tonight with been pi55ed off not seeing anything out for the last few nights got to my first permission and seen a few scatter when i rolled up in the 4x4 so had another mooch round to a corner i not bothered with before and found a load more runs there using while there seen a few that run from my permission into the next feild so i know they are there got back in the 4x4 and on my way up the hill copped for 3 i stopped eased the handbrake on left the engine running as not to spook them 1 sat so thought your mine slowly opened the door and got out it was roughly